Mr Lee Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Hmmmmm, :89: Santos pointed to an angel tattooed on her nape. She said this reminds her of a baby she once carried in her womb.On her right leg is a wild flower which she said reminds her of being “pushed to the ground.”The names of her two sons are tattooed in Chinese letters on her right leg. Her sons are living with her Filipino husband in the United States.On her right leg are the statements “Wildflower in troubled water rescued by the knight of darkness” , “Life's secret betrayed by heaven, broken spirit healed by never ending lies,” and “Naive heart fooled by...IDIOT.”On her left leg, a rosary tattoo with the words “faith, perverted law, and horror truth” can be read on the beads. The rosary cross has the word “survive.”When asked what she meant by the statements on her legs, Santos, pointing to her jail, said, “This is what I got.”“I betrayed my husband who cared for me. There is no one to be blamed except me,” she said.Bella said she was supposed to reconcile with her Filipino husband, but he learned about her relationship with Griffiths. Link to the complete story HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Hmmmmm, :89: Santos pointed to an angel tattooed on her nape. She said this reminds her of a baby she once carried in her womb.On her right leg is a wild flower which she said reminds her of being “pushed to the ground.”The names of her two sons are tattooed in Chinese letters on her right leg. Her sons are living with her Filipino husband in the United States.On her right leg are the statements “Wildflower in troubled water rescued by the knight of darkness” , “Life's secret betrayed by heaven, broken spirit healed by never ending lies,” and “Naive heart fooled by...IDIOT.”On her left leg, a rosary tattoo with the words “faith, perverted law, and horror truth” can be read on the beads. The rosary cross has the word “survive.”When asked what she meant by the statements on her legs, Santos, pointing to her jail, said, “This is what I got.”“I betrayed my husband who cared for me. There is no one to be blamed except me,” she said.Bella said she was supposed to reconcile with her Filipino husband, but he learned about her relationship with Griffiths. Link to the complete story HERE As they say, beauty is only skin deep. In her case, the ugly tattoos also advertise her ugly inner soul.The way she showed up at her first court appearance, looking like an aristocrat snubbing the world,like her chit don't stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lee Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 Hmmmmm, :89: Santos pointed to an angel tattooed on her nape. She said this reminds her of a baby she once carried in her womb.On her right leg is a wild flower which she said reminds her of being “pushed to the ground.”The names of her two sons are tattooed in Chinese letters on her right leg. Her sons are living with her Filipino husband in the United States.On her right leg are the statements “Wildflower in troubled water rescued by the knight of darkness” , “Life's secret betrayed by heaven, broken spirit healed by never ending lies,” and “Naive heart fooled by...IDIOT.”On her left leg, a rosary tattoo with the words “faith, perverted law, and horror truth” can be read on the beads. The rosary cross has the word “survive.”When asked what she meant by the statements on her legs, Santos, pointing to her jail, said, “This is what I got.”“I betrayed my husband who cared for me. There is no one to be blamed except me,” she said.Bella said she was supposed to reconcile with her Filipino husband, but he learned about her relationship with Griffiths. Link to the complete story HERE As they say, beauty is only skin deep. In her case, the ugly tattoos also advertise her ugly inner soul.The way she showed up at her first court appearance, looking like an aristocrat snubbing the world,like her chit don't stink.The quote that makes me wonder the most and may be damning in its meaning, is the part I have now put in red. So who is the knight of darkness that rescued the the wildflower in troubled waters? We know she is probably the wildflower in troubled waters. One could read a lot into that but it might mean nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpo Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Why in the world would her lawyers allow her to say anything to the media? I question the ability of her lawyers, or maybe she is just one of those clients that will not listen to their advice. She is clearly a very troubled person and seems to be feeling lots of guilt. This tells us a little something about her and also tells us a bit about Griffiths who was in a relationship with this woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Hmmmmm, :89: Santos pointed to an angel tattooed on her nape. She said this reminds her of a baby she once carried in her womb.On her right leg is a wild flower which she said reminds her of being “pushed to the ground.”The names of her two sons are tattooed in Chinese letters on her right leg. Her sons are living with her Filipino husband in the United States.On her right leg are the statements “Wildflower in troubled water rescued by the knight of darkness” , “Life's secret betrayed by heaven, broken spirit healed by never ending lies,” and “Naive heart fooled by...IDIOT.”On her left leg, a rosary tattoo with the words “faith, perverted law, and horror truth” can be read on the beads. The rosary cross has the word “survive.”When asked what she meant by the statements on her legs, Santos, pointing to her jail, said, “This is what I got.”“I betrayed my husband who cared for me. There is no one to be blamed except me,” she said.Bella said she was supposed to reconcile with her Filipino husband, but he learned about her relationship with Griffiths. Link to the complete story HERE As they say, beauty is only skin deep. In her case, the ugly tattoos also advertise her ugly inner soul.The way she showed up at her first court appearance, looking like an aristocrat snubbing the world,like her chit don't stink.The quote that makes me wonder the most and may be damning in its meaning, is the part I have now put in red. So who is the knight of darkness that rescued the the wildflower in troubled waters? We know she is probably the wildflower in troubled waters. One could read a lot into that but it might mean nothing at all. By "We" do you mean the royal "we"? And you do you come to this conclusion? I believe you may be reading far too much into the reporter's account of her interview which may not be at all accurate and is likely to have suffered the effects of poor translation from Visayan. I place very little credence in anything that newspaper says, it's part of the Philippine Inquirer group and, judging from its reporting of this case, lives up to the notoriety of its American counterpart in my view. I am sure there will be questions asked about why a reporter was given access to a remand prisoner who has no direct means of contacting her lawyer - plus the interview was conducted over the weekend when he would not have been available. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Why in the world would her lawyers allow her to say anything to the media? I question the ability of her lawyers, or maybe she is just one of those clients that will not listen to their advice. She is clearly a very troubled person and seems to be feeling lots of guilt. This tells us a little something about her and also tells us a bit about Griffiths who was in a relationship with this woman. I don't know so much as "guilt" as you put it. It sounds a lot more like depression to me, especially in light of those months on the run, not knowing who to trust, or when she was likely to be apprehended again. It sounds to me that she has had a bit of time to reflect on her life, and got into the "Stinking thinking" phase, or the "poor me's" Like if she had reconciliated with her husband in the first place, then she would not be in this mess anyhow. I also agree with Markham's post, especially on how a reporter was even able to interview her in the first place ! I place very little credence in newspaper articles, but at the moment, that is all we have to go on. I still can't get over the feeling, that the real perpetrator, was a lot closer to the Pique family than what Santos and Griffiths are. I suppose time will tell, if there is any justice at all ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpo Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) One of the first things any good defense attorney tells their client is not to talk to anybody, especially somebody at the jail. Everybody in jail is looking for a way out and if they can get her to say something about her case to them then it is common for them to then become a witness against her in exchange for less time or no time in jail. If her attorney had not already told her not to talk to anybody then he or she is not doing a very good job. If however she is the type of person who just does not care what her attorney instructs her then there really is not much they can do but hope she does not say anything really stupid. When I said she felt guilt I was meaning the guilt she implied by “I betrayed my husband who cared for me. There is no one to be blamed except me,” she said. She sounds like a person that is close to giving up the fight. If she and Griffiths are in fact involved then I would suspect that it will not be long before she will admit her involvement and agree to testify against Griffiths. If they are not involved then I hope there will be a quick trial to show the lack of any good evidence and maybe the focus of the case can be redirected in a different direction. I honestly just hope that there can be justice and closure. You are right in that most cases of this type then the suspect is usually somebody that the victim knows and is also known to the victims family. From the beginning of the case I had always said that the SUV was the key to finding the suspects and that it bothered me that it was reported that the girl seemed happy to get into the vehicle with the couple and did not seem to be afraid or put up any type of fight. But this is only based on news media reports that I also feel are seldom totally accurate. Media is media and the same all over the world. Their job is to get people to read or listen to them and most will do about anything then can to make their story better than a reporter that only reports the facts, which very seldom happens. I never even listen to media outlets that are controled by the government. Edited October 24, 2011 by Garpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Why in the world would her lawyers allow her to say anything to the media? I question the ability of her lawyers, or maybe she is just one of those clients that will not listen to their advice. She is clearly a very troubled person and seems to be feeling lots of guilt. This tells us a little something about her and also tells us a bit about Griffiths who was in a relationship with this woman. I don't know so much as "guilt" as you put it. It sounds a lot more like depression to me, especially in light of those months on the run, not knowing who to trust, or when she was likely to be apprehended again. It sounds to me that she has had a bit of time to reflect on her life, and got into the "Stinking thinking" phase, or the "poor me's" Like if she had reconciliated with her husband in the first place, then she would not be in this mess anyhow. I also agree with Markham's post, especially on how a reporter was even able to interview her in the first place ! I place very little credence in newspaper articles, but at the moment, that is all we have to go on. I still can't get over the feeling, that the real perpetrator, was a lot closer to the Pique family than what Santos and Griffiths are. I suppose time will tell, if there is any justice at all !Totally agree with ya Garpo. She is definitely a "troubled person", feeling sad for herself -- probably from being apprehended finally.Hey Candyman, I like that phrase "stinking thinking" -- like she is finally realizing that her chit does stink. Regarding special visitors,looks like Santos can still afford to "lubricate" the system by allowing reporters, friends and relatives bringing her favorite foods andother luxury items. The news article written by reporter Ador Manyol from Cebu Daily News seems to me like like a tape recording. I don't see anything how the reporter could interpret Santos comments, unless she was misquoted by the voice recorder. Further-more, someone posted that she is from central Luzon, so she must be fluent in Tagalog and at least carabao English. I believe Kuya Lee conclusion is correct -- that she is in deep troubled waters as the withering "wild flower". Her feeble attempt tocapture public sympathy does not surprise me. It's part of the Filipino culture of self pity. It's called "ka wow wow ako". Jake Edited October 24, 2011 by Jake spill chek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lee Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 By "We" do you mean the royal "we"? And you do you come to this conclusion? I believe you may be reading far too much into the reporter's account of her interview which may not be at all accurate and is likely to have suffered the effects of poor translation from Visayan. I place very little credence in anything that newspaper says, it's part of the Philippine Inquirer group and, judging from its reporting of this case, lives up to the notoriety of its American counterpart in my view. I am sure there will be questions asked about why a reporter was given access to a remand prisoner who has no direct means of contacting her lawyer - plus the interview was conducted over the weekend when he would not have been available. Mark I would say we is pretty much the collective, so most anyone who reads it and knows it is coming from her since it is supposed to be her words, well except if we take your point that nothing is to be believed that is in the news, yet I have found that there is always some truth in what is printed and it is for all of us to figure out what is truth and what is embellishment on the part of the journalist. In the above case, it would seem to me that it would be hard for the journalist to embellish on what was supposedly said, and since I have been following this, as have many of you, it seems the words they claim she said, would fit her situation. I do not think it would be a stretch to think she would call herself Wildflower, and it would also seem logical she is, and has been troubled, so in troubled waters makes sense, and then comes who would be the Knight of darkness that rescued her, I guess we would have to leave that open for each of us to think about, but no matter what, if she said what is written, then she pretty much put her foot in her mouth IN MY OPINION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Regarding special visitors, looks like Santos can still afford to "lubricate" the system by allowing reporters, friends and relatives bringing her favorite foods and other luxury items.It's terribly easy to pour scorn from your comfortable armchair in southern California on someone who is considerably less fortunate than you. You are, I believe, Filipino and I am surprised by your lack of understanding of her situation - or maybe you have absolutely no idea of the Philippine Penal system. The only luxury she has been permitted, apart from basic toiletries, is a thin foam pad to place on top of the sheet of plywood that is her bed. If you consider that a luxury - and I don't - then I am truly shocked. You may not know this but in many Jails, inmates' friends and family are expected to bring food for their incarcerated family member. It is possible that, since the Jail is open for visitors for several hours 6 days a week, that this Jail does not provide any food. A friend of mine's wife knows Bella Santos and she is an outgoing person, very friendly and generous. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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