Bella Santos Ready For Court Trial; Explains Tattoos

[Markham]

By "We" do you mean the royal "we"? And you do you come to this conclusion? I believe you may be reading far too much into the reporter's account of her interview which may not be at all accurate and is likely to have suffered the effects of poor translation from Visayan. I place very little credence in anything that newspaper says, it's part of the Philippine Inquirer group and, judging from its reporting of this case, lives up to the notoriety of its American counterpart in my view. I am sure there will be questions asked about why a reporter was given access to a remand prisoner who has no direct means of contacting her lawyer - plus the interview was conducted over the weekend when he would not have been available. Mark

I would say we is pretty much the collective, so most anyone who reads it and knows it is coming from her since it is supposed to be her words, well except if we take your point that nothing is to be believed that is in the news, yet I have found that there is always some truth in what is printed and it is for all of us to figure out what is truth and what is embellishment on the part of the journalist. In the above case, it would seem to me that it would be hard for the journalist to embellish on what was supposedly said, and since I have been following this, as have many of you, it seems the words they claim she said, would fit her situation. I do not think it would be a stretch to think she would call herself Wildflower, and it would also seem logical she is, and has been troubled, so in troubled waters makes sense, and then comes who would be the Knight of darkness that rescued her, I guess we would have to leave that open for each of us to think about, but no matter what, if she said what is written, then she pretty much put her foot in her mouth IN MY OPINION.

Lee, I really do take exception to you twisting my words. I did not say "that nothing is to be believed that is in the news" as well you know. What I said was "I place very little credence in anything that newspaper says, it's part of the Philippine Inquirer group and, judging from its reporting of this case, lives up to the notoriety of its American counterpart in my view." which is entirely different - but to make sure you understand it, I've emphasised some words for you. This is not the first time I have had cause to complain about this. I really do wonder if you want to see true justice for that little girl or simply an expedient solution. The pain for the Pique family will be far greater if she is convicted and then wins an appeal in the Supreme Court. Mark

[Mr Lee]

Lee, I really do take exception to you twisting my words. I did not say "that nothing is to be believed that is in the news" as well you know. What I said was "I place very little credence in anything that newspaper says, it's part of the Philippine Inquirer group and, judging from its reporting of this case, lives up to the notoriety of its American counterpart in my view." which is entirely different - but to make sure you understand it, I've emphasised some words for you. This is not the first time I have had cause to complain about this. I really do wonder if you want to see true justice for that little girl or simply an expedient solution. The pain for the Pique family will be far greater if she is convicted and then wins an appeal in the Supreme Court. Mark

Mark, do you know what the word credence means, or does it mean something different where you come from?Credence mental acceptance as true or real So if you place very little credence in anything that newspaper says :th_thholysheep: So since that newspaper is part of the news sources, I guess then you are saying just that news source cannot be trusted, so then all the other posts where other news sources were quoted and you had little faith in what they wrote as well, so are you changing your mind from past posts, what about them, can the others be believed? and if not then what is your point?

[Jake]

Regarding special visitors, looks like Santos can still afford to "lubricate" the system by allowing reporters, friends and relatives bringing her favorite foods and other luxury items.

It's terribly easy to pour scorn from your comfortable armchair in southern California on someone who is considerably less fortunate than you. You are, I believe, Filipino and I am surprised by your lack of understanding of her situation - or maybe you have absolutely no idea of the Philippine Penal system. The only luxury she has been permitted, apart from basic toiletries, is a thin foam pad to place on top of the sheet of plywood that is her bed. If you consider that a luxury - and I don't - then I am truly shocked. You may not know this but in many Jails, inmates' friends and family are expected to bring food for their incarcerated family member. It is possible that, since the Jail is open for visitors for several hours 6 days a week, that this Jail does not provide any food. A friend of mine's wife knows Bella Santos and she is an outgoing person, very friendly and generous. Mark

You're damn right I'm in my comfortable chair pouring scorn to this less unfortunate soul. And yes, your are correct that I don't know jack chit about the Philippine penal code. But what I do know, is money talks and many wardensand other jail officials have been fired for operating under the midnight table deals. Having a toothbrush and soapare definite luxury items. Forget about bed padding -- finding horizontal space to sleep is another luxury item. My eyeballs have seen this in a very overcrowded Bacoor City jail, south of Manila. You are, I believe, British and I'm not surprise by you arrogant know-it-all attitude or maybe you have absolutely noidea about recognizing or accepting other members points of view. Don't bother to respond -- I have other betterthings to do in my life rather than argue with you keyboard to keyboard. It will only be child's play. End of discussion -- Jake Edited October 26, 2011 by Jake
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[Markham]

Lee, I really do take exception to you twisting my words. I did not say "that nothing is to be believed that is in the news" as well you know. What I said was "I place very little credence in anything that newspaper says, it's part of the Philippine Inquirer group and, judging from its reporting of this case, lives up to the notoriety of its American counterpart in my view." which is entirely different - but to make sure you understand it, I've emphasised some words for you. This is not the first time I have had cause to complain about this. I really do wonder if you want to see true justice for that little girl or simply an expedient solution. The pain for the Pique family will be far greater if she is convicted and then wins an appeal in the Supreme Court. Mark

Mark, do you know what the word credence means, or does it mean something different where you come from?Credence mental acceptance as true or real So if you place very little credence in anything that newspaper says :th_thholysheep: So since that newspaper is part of the news sources, I guess then you are saying just that news source cannot be trusted, so then all the other posts where other news sources were quoted and you had little faith in what they wrote as well, so are you changing your mind from past posts, what about them, can the others be believed? and if not then what is your point?

Credence derives from the Latin word "credo" meaning faith - Latin being one of the earliest bases of English. There have been around 560 articles published in English about this case from the three main newspapers on Cebu - Cebu Daily News, Freeman and Sun Star Cebu. Of those three, the only newspaper that has been consistently balanced in both its reportage and editorials is the Freeman but even they have occasionally got their facts a bit wrong. I place far greater trust in what the Freeman tells me, than either of the other two. I suspect that Cebu Daily News may be acting as the Police's mouthpiece. Mark