Garpo Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Might I suggest that you provide a loan to the brother in-law with the agreement that once he obtains the job and begins to make some money that he will pay you back for your trouble and costs. You might also want to make some type of agreement with the employer that you have lined up for him. While I will be the first to admit that it is always hard to collect from family on loans, there are ways of making sure you are paid back. One of the ways that I have found that works really well, is if one of the family does not pay back a loan then I refuse to lend to any other family member and tell them the reason why. It is fun to see how fast they will put pressure on the dead beat so that they can then borrow money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Braddo, I can feel your frustration mate. We should all expect things like this. It IS the Philippines we're talking about here and we all know how things operate.Mate i know your not going to want to hear this, but i told my missus your story and she said she personally knows a couple who had their daughters name incorrectly entered on the birth certificate. Just a minor mistake but instead of the christian name being "Roseanne", it was listed as Rose Anne ( two words ).This couple spent almost P100,000 and several court appearances to get the certificate ammended!The missus says if you can get it fixed for P60,000 it may be best to pay it and then when the brother-in-law comes to Oz and begins work, he can pay it back to you.I'm like you, i don't like paying ANY corruption money, especially that amount, but hey talk it over with the Brother-in-law ( your flying over soon aren't ya?) Maybe when you get there you might find other avenues to explore.Best of luck mate. :)Hi BundyI went the other week to my gfs home town and got her birth certificate changed (wrong spelling) and it only cost 60 or 160p it was only a small amount and it was done in about half an hourKevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp52 Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Buy a wig and some make up and he can go as a female welder. I hope every thing works out for you and not to expensive. Good Luck. I was wondering if he said to them he lost it and needs a new one and if they can make the changes there and now Maybe cheaper that way. Edited December 30, 2011 by sjp52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me bubba Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) Here is another link to this topic, maybe the info you need could be in this.http://www.philippin...th-certificate/ Errors ,how To Solve Those Paperwork/ Legal Documenthttp://www.philippin...legal-document/In another post, here is a members reply to how he solved his "birth certificate error"Candyman, on 18 February 2009 - 10:30 AM, said:We have a problem with my sister in laws Birth Certificate. On it, it has her marked down as a Male, when obviously she is not. She is very clearly female, and always has been. What is the process, and hassles, and proper procedure to get this changed, so as at least she can apply for a passport, or even in the future, if she wants to get married, she will need the proper document. By the way, she currently lives in Cebu. Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated. ThankyouCandyman, it has been a while since you posted this, has there been any resolution to the problem? Thanks Ed, and Kuya ! Yes, it is basically exactly like Ed has posted above, except for the localities, (Badian and Cebu City), instead of Manila and Quezon City. She had to really jump through hoops, and it was very frustrating and time consuming.She in fact had to appear in Cebu City Court Four separate occasions, before the problem was resolved. It was resolved satisfactorily Last May (2011), on the fourth visit to court. She now has the amended Birth Certificate. It took just over two years to get one word changed ! (Male to Female) ! Now she can apply for a Passport, but now circumstances have changed a bit, so there is not quite the rush for this, as now we have to save up the bond and fare to get her here.http://www.philippin...th-certificate/ # 29Here is the answer to the question that CANDYMAN hadDEAR PAO,I found out that my gender in my birth certificate is erroneously entered as Male. I went to the Office of the Civil Registrar of Manila to have it corrected but they said that they cannot do anything about it because I was registered in Quezon City. But when I went to the Office of the Civil Registrar in Quezon City, the personnel there said that I need to go to court for its correction. Isn’t there a law that allows correction of entries without going to court? I am tired being pointed to different offices. I wish you can help me.MaeDear Mae,We understand the frustration that you are experiencing for not being able to correct the error in your birth certificate. However, you have to understand that we have certain rules and procedures that we need to follow in order to effect changes in our birth certificates. It is true that there is a law which allows the correction of entry in birth certificates without going to court.This is Republic Act No. 9408 otherwise known as the Clerical Error Law. However, not all kinds of errors can be corrected under this law.Section 1 of RA 9408 provides that only clerical or typographical errors in civil register may be corrected or changed by the concerned city or municipal civil registrar or consul general in accordance with this law and its Implementing Rules and Regulations.A clerical or typographical error is defined as a mistake committed in the performance of clerical work in writing, copying, transcribing or typing an entry in the civil register that is harmless and innocuous, such as misspelled name or misspelled place of birth or the like, which is visible to the eyes or obvious to the understanding, and can be corrected or changed only by reference to other existing record or records, provided,however, that no correction must involve the change of nationality, age, status, or sex of the petitioner (Section 2(3), ibid). (emphasis supplied)It can be gleaned from the foregoing that the error in your gender is not among the errors which can be administratively corrected by the Civil Registrar. As correctly pointed out by the personnel of the Office of the Civil Registrar of Quezon City, you need to go to court to correct such error. You may do so by filing a Petition for Correction of Entry under Rule 108 of the Rules of Court in the Regional Trial Court of Quezon City, where your record of birth is registered.Upon filing of the petition, the court shall order the time and place of the hearing and that reasonable notice be given to the persons named in the petition. It shall likewise order its publication once a week for three (3) consecutive weeks, in a newspaper of general circulation in the province where the petition is filed (Section 4, rule 108).The court may either grant or deny the petition. In either case, certified copy of the judgment shall be served upon the civil registrar concerned who shall annotate the same in his record.Finally, we wish to remind you that this opinion is solely based on your narration of facts and our appreciation of the same. The opinion may vary if other facts are added or elaborated.We hope that we were able to address your concern.Editor’s note: Dear PAO is a daily column of the Public Attorney’s Office.the link for this article in manila times.net is not active Edited December 31, 2011 by ed villas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me bubba Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Braddo, I can feel your frustration mate. We should all expect things like this. It IS the Philippines we're talking about here and we all know how things operate.Mate i know your not going to want to hear this, but i told my missus your story and she said she personally knows a couple who had their daughters name incorrectly entered on the birth certificate. Just a minor mistake but instead of the christian name being "Roseanne", it was listed as Rose Anne ( two words ).This couple spent almost P100,000 and several court appearances to get the certificate ammended!The missus says if you can get it fixed for P60,000 it may be best to pay it and then when the brother-in-law comes to Oz and begins work, he can pay it back to you.I'm like you, i don't like paying ANY corruption money, especially that amount, but hey talk it over with the Brother-in-law ( your flying over soon aren't ya?) Maybe when you get there you might find other avenues to explore.Best of luck mate. :tiphat:in this post .you said it COST you over 100.000 php to get this fix/corrected.could you FULLY Explain so that others would know what to do or NOT to do?Did you have to travel BACK to the Province to get this Resolved/corrected ? or?here is a previous post from DEAR PAO that discusses such paperwork errors and how to solve them using the current laws/rulesthis could save other members such costs/headache/frustrationR.A. 9048 otherwise known as the “Clerical Error Law”. here is what rule/law you need to know. Read it carefully and who knows you may save some money.Correcting clerical error in birth certificateDear PAO,My house helper has a problem with her surname in her birth certificate because the name which appears in it is “Deal Rosa”, instead of “Dela Rosa”, which is the correct spelling. She wants to correct the error in her birth certificate and she was advised that she has to file the necessary request with the local civil registry where she was born, which is in Cotabato.Is there any other way to correct the error considering that it seems to be merely an error in typing? Can she just go to the National Statistics Office (NSO), main office for correction? She is living with me in Quezon City.Mrs. RuizDear Mrs. Ruiz,The surname of your house helper in her birth certificate, “Deal Rosa”, is obviously a misspelled name for “Dela Rosa”.Considering that the error is obvious to the understanding,such may be corrected through an administrative proceeding under R.A. 9048 otherwise known as the “Clerical Error Law”.Under Section 2 (3) thereof, a typographical error is definedas a mistake committed in the performance of clerical work in writing, copying, transcribing or typing an entry in the civil registerthat is harmless and innocuous, such as misspelled name or misspelled place of birth or the like, which is visible to the eyes or obvious to the understanding, and can be corrected or changed only by reference to other existing record or records.The correction of an entry in the birth certificate is filed with the local civil registry office of the city or municipality where the record being sought to be corrected or changed is kept (Section 3, R.A. 9048).Thus, said petition of your house helper should be filed with the local civil registry office of the city or municipality in Cotabato because it is where she was born and, necessarily, where the documents of her birth is being kept.HOWEVER, since she is now residing in Quezon City, she may file her petition in the local civil registry office of Quezon City.It is stated under the R.A. 9048 that in case the petitioner has already migrated to another place in the country and it would not be practical for such party, in terms of transportation expenses, time and effort to appear in person before the local civil registrar keeping the documents to be corrected or changed, the petition may be filed, in person, with the local civil registrar of the place where the interested party is presently residing or domiciled.The two (2) local civil registrars concerned will then communicate to facilitate the processing of the petition.The local civil registrar receiving the petition shall endorse the petition to the local civil registrar, who is keeping the record after he has examined the petition as to the completeness of the requirements and supporting documents, after payment of the petitioner of the prescribed fees, and after the posting or publication requirement is complied with (Rule 6, Administrative Order No. 1, Series of 2001, RE: Rules and Regulations Governing the Implementation of R.A. 9048). Edited January 25, 2012 by ed villas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me bubba Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I am hoping some one in the forum can help with advise on how to get our brother in -laws birth certificate changed we have all his documents and paperwork thats is required but unfortunatly we have found that on his birth certificate he has been put down as a female not male. He has just been married to my wifes sister earlier this year and nothing had been said by priest or anyone else about his birth certificate, he didn't even know it had the mistake. Now after he has gone to the immigration office to ask how to get this fixed they said he had to go to a judge then to re apply for a new certificate cost quoted was nearly P60,000 I know things work in funny ways in the PI but shorly if the births office had made the mistake about being male or female can't he just go to an office relating to this and get a new certificate instead of doing the run around and contributing to everyones pocket I relize that a donation will have to be paid under the table somewere but as long as it is not thousands I don't mind, I just think that here is an opportunity to set our family and his up over there and now it is going down the drain because of an errow no fault of his own Has anyone got any ideas on what I need to do to get this fixed I would be very gratefull Cheers Braddo any updates BRADDO on this that you can share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddo Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 We have since found a person in Cebu that can change his birth certificate and generate a passport for P10,000 so that sounds alot better to me but I want to be there in person to see the finished product before I put my hand in my pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brock Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 10,000 sounds an awful awful lot to me, I think your being ripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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