Forum Support Old55 Posted November 4, 2011 Forum Support Posted November 4, 2011 Smells like another PNP scandal to me. http://www.philstar....bCategoryId=107 I have no idea who killed that poor little girl I don't believe the police are truthful to do with the reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 http://www.philstar....bCategoryId=107 I have no idea who killed that poor little girl I don't believe the police are truthful to do with the reward. Hard to say,problem is if someone suddenly has wealth then it could be worse than being poor once everyone wants their piece. It could also be that the informant could fear their lives if it was known who it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lee Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 It can also be that the informant did not think that far ahead about how they were to collect their reward and now knowing they will have to go on TV, even with a cover over their head, might not be so sure no one would recognize them. Rewards such as this should be given to people with their backs turned behind a screen, but even then they would have to go to where the reward would be given out, so therefore might be seen by someone entering or exiting. I am told that Crime stoppers sends money via a bank, so a person just goes in and gives the bank a security number that they have been given over the phone, and is handed the money at the branch of their choice, and the banks are not aware of the reason the money is given, but in a high profile case such as this, anyone going into any bank and getting a large sum of money such as that, would no doubt be known as the tipster. Another way might be for the govt to release the money to a bank account set up specifically for this purpose and give an ATM card to the tipster with no news story, then they could withdraw it at their leisure from different machines over a period of time, that would be much safer IMO, but then someone would no doubt think the money was taken by govt officials as more corruption instead of given to the tipster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpo Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 Informant is most likely somebody that is close to Santos and is afraid that they will be exposed if they collect the reward. I doubt that many people in the Philippines are really too worried about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 As I understand it, Santos knows who her informant is. Your recent posts suggest that you really don't much care for this couple and would be quite happy to see them take the rap for something they did not do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 As I understand it, Santos knows who her informant is. Your recent posts suggest that you really don't much care for this couple and would be quite happy to see them take the rap for something they did not do.probably her mother hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpo Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) As I understand it, Santos knows who her informant is. Your recent posts suggest that you really don't much care for this couple and would be quite happy to see them take the rap for something they did not do. I have no judgement on their guilt or innocence. I would rather see ten guilty people walk than see one innocent person found guilty. While I do question some of the things they and their lawyers are doing, I just hope that some justice can come to the victims family. Some times we get so caught up on guilt or innocence that we forget about the victim and seeking justice for her family and friends. I feel that there is enough evidence to at least have a trial. I am not convinced that there is enough evidence to convict. I have also not heard of any evidence that either Santos or Griffiths are in fact innocent. They may very well be found not guilty, but that does not mean they are innocent. Edited November 7, 2011 by Garpo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Do you really think justice is served by prosecuting a case that is so evidentially weak that it fails? The victim's family had already suffered one failed attempt to prosecute and that, on top of losing Ellah Joy, would deal them a triple-whammy. The chances that CIDG will reopen the case and find the true perpetrators are really rather remote. You may not realise it, but the case against Santos and Griffiths was all put together inside a week, just as was the case against Berger and Esdrelon. Demands for quick results and rushes to justice generally result in miscarriages of justice - or failed cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Forum Support Posted November 7, 2011 Do you really think justice is served by prosecuting a case that is so evidentially weak that it fails? The victim's family had already suffered one failed attempt to prosecute and that, on top of losing Ellah Joy, would deal them a triple-whammy. The chances that CIDG will reopen the case and find the true perpetrators are really rather remote. You may not realise it, but the case against Santos and Griffiths was all put together inside a week, just as was the case against Berger and Esdrelon. Demands for quick results and rushes to justice generally result in miscarriages of justice - or failed cases.Could it be having the case fail is exactly what the police wish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 I can't believe the Police wants any case to fail, especially one that is as high-profile as this one. If/when it fails, the senior officers will absolve themselves of responsibility and pass the blame down the line. The problem there is, that there are some very good Police officers in the lowly ranks who otherwise do good work. They will become thoroughly humiliated and demoralised with the result that some may leave. And that begs a question - are the upper ranks truly serious about clearing-up sex crimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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