Australian Kidnapped

[Fast&Furious]

 

What I'd like to point is that Americans won't probably see the big difference because they already have lots of guns (and gunshots) going around in their home country while in Australia it's extremely rare, there is way less crime...and if you live in the country areas then it feels like a place out of 100 years ago....kids playing on the roads till dark....homes left unlocked....fruit and flowers offered for sale unattended with a tin where buyers leave money if they buy them....I mean in many other countries they would probably steal everything...let alone pay for it!

 

Well, speaking of your statement about 'a lot of gun shots'. You are correct! I really am dismayed about the lack of proper gun control... which is a FIRM grip and proper alignment of the sights on the intended target!

 

As to your statement about there being less crime Down Under... you need to deepen your research. Currently in the US, the NRA and other well noted researchers are using Oz's crime statistics and time lines of before the gun confiscation to after the gun confiscations to demonstrate that gun control ( taking guns away from the sheep, er, ah, people) does not lower crime, and in fact, often emboldens criminals who assume that YOU will offer little resistance if they rob, beat, fold, spindle and or mutilate you.  

 

Once of the more interesting things in anti gun politics in America is that 'they' continue to make the same type of mistakes over and over and over in their news releases. One would think they might want to stop embarrassing themselves, but they still continue to release false or doctored stats. EVERY anti gun press release that quotes any statistical data is jumped on by the pro 2nd amendment people and dissected and the source of the data quoted by the anti gun people is looked at contacted if there is a author and then a press release if sent out pointing out the incorrect information or now disproved information which may have come from 1987. 

 

It really is similar to the drug studies which may be rigged to support a new drug, but when a much larger population is used in the study, the rigged study comes apart as self serving. Same with the gun control people not realizing or ignoring that computers track everything and once they say some statistic such as what the crime stats are Down Under after the guns were taken, the researchers then have a solid trail to follow and to disprove the anti gun press release as simply more self serving but not factually correct data.  

 

So take another look at the crime stats Down Under and in the UK where the crime stats are getting even worse! But be careful with the UK comments, would not want to offend any recent immigrants, now would we? :36_6_3[1]:  :6:  :AddEmoticons04230:  :th_thanx:  :th_exactly:  :sign0095:  

 

 

 

 

Hi Bruce

 

I am certainly more than willing to take a deeper look but the UK is becoming just another s^^^hole full of angry people trying to make a living. Obviously someone goes nuts.

 

 

I would add the New Zealand example: over there, not even the Police carry guns. Crime is even lower than in Australia.

[Americano]

In Switzerland most people have guns and it has the lowest crime rate in the world, so what does that tell you?  Guns don't cause crime, people do. In Switzerland males are required to serve in the military and then after service they bring their guns home with them to help defend the country and yet there is very little crime why?  Guns do not cause crime, people do.

[Fast&Furious]

But without guns, who is going to die? Would be dead all those children that each year get shot in the US by some crazy gun holder?

Edited June 12, 2013 by wallaby

[Bruce]

But without guns, who is going to die? Would be dead all those children that each year get shot in the US by some crazy gun holder?

 In Japan, they have mass murder by knives / swords.

 

In reality, more people are killed by cars but you do not see anyone trying to ban cars. Yet.

 

If a (person) wanted to kill 10-20 people, they do not need a gun. Just a car or better, a truck. Traveling at 40+ mph and driving up to a parade and then just jump the curb.  

 

And there will be a few fringe people try to further regulate cars / truck to prevent such a tragety from happening again!

 

But kidnapping, like in the original post is an upclose and personal thing and a gun, in the posession of a qualified kidnapee is a wonderful thing..... :thumbsup:

[i am bob]

Can we get back on topic?  This should not be a gun / anti-gun discussion.

 

Thank you.