Swedish National Faces Charge Of Child Abuse!

[Art2ro]

Sorry if this is just a repeat from yesterday's post, but it should be on it's own title to stand out IMO!It's truly a presumption of a law based without any facts, but just allegations before the facts are presented!You are automatically guilty and have to prove your innocence while sitting in jail! Holy cow! http://cdn.ph/news_d...ls.php?id=12636Swedish National Faces Charge Of Child Abuse!A complaint for child abuse was filed yesterday against the 67-year-old Swedish national who was arrested in the company of a 9-year-old girl in the Cebu City port.Jonny Lagstrem was presented by port police for inquest proceedings before Assistant City Prosecutor Noel Cellona.He was accompanied by a woman from Bacolod City, who said she was his fiancée and that the little girl was her cousin.The charge against Lagstrem for violation of Republic Act 7610 or the Anti-Child Abuse Law refers to section 5 b and 10 on sexual abuse and “keeping company” with a minor who is not a relative or a legal ward.The child, a native of Masbate province, is being looked after now by the Provincial Women’s Commission (PWC), said Vice Gov. Agnes Magpale.Magpale, co-chairperson of the PWC, said the girl will undergo a debriefing session with social workers and a physical examination.The child's parents have not yet shown up.Social workers in Cebu initially talked to the girl who told them she was not sexually abused by Lagstrem.Magpale said they were told by Lagstrem's girlfriend that Lagstrem is a lawyer who has been going around the country for six years. This profile of the Swedish national is still being verified, said the vice governor.“The important thing is that the girl has child psychologists (attending to her),” said Magpale, who explained that the PWC, headed by Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, committed to help victims of child abuse even if they are not from Cebu.“Who knows, the next victim may be from Cebu,” she said.The commission has been in the forefront of rescuing children from sexual abuse, including 2011 raids of cybersex dens in Cordova town, where private houses in low-income neighborhoods were used for web camera porn operations.Lagstrem and the girl were about to leave Cebu for Masbate last Monday when they were stopped by two policemen at the Cebu Ports Authority Passenger Terminal 3 in Cebu City at 5:25 p.m.Port police were tipped off to look for Lagstrem and the child. They contacted the PWC, which called in the National Bureau of Investigation in Central Visayas (NBI-7).NBI-7 led by special investigator Jedidah Hife filed the complaint against Lagstrem.The NBI cited section 5, paragraph b of RA 7610, which penalizes those “who commit the act of sexual intercourse or lascivious conduct with a child exploited in prostitution or subject to other sexual abuse.Lagstrem was also cited for section 10, paragraph b that prohibits any person from “keeping in his company a minor, 12 years or under or who is 10 years or more his junior in any public or private place.”The ban applies to any person who is not the child’s relative up to the fourth degree or has no any bond recognized by law, local custom and tradition or one not acting in the performance of a social, moral or legal duty.Lagstrem initially told police he brought the girl to a hospital for treatment in Cebu City.The NBI said an informant in Masbate tipped off the Maritime police about the foreigner and that the girl has been under the custody of her grandparents.

Edited February 23, 2012 by Art2ro

[brock]

Its always a foreigner who gets charged with this offence, Doesn't it apply to Filipino `s

[Art2ro]

Its always a foreigner who gets charged with this offence, Doesn't it apply to Filipino `s

It's a Republic Act and it certainly applys to everyone residing in the Philippines! Some foreigners are just ignorant of the Philippine local laws and that's why they put themselves in awkward situations and this article shows proof of it!

[Bruce]

Its always a foreigner who gets charged with this offence, Doesn't it apply to Filipino `s

It's a Republic Act and it certainly applys to everyone residing in the Philippines! Some foreigners are just ignorant of the Philippine local laws and that's why they put themselves in awkward situations and this article shows proof of it!

Article says nothing of charging his fiance! Also looks as if 'they' have a conclusion and are now trying to manuver the girl into supporting their version of 'facts'.Also, isn't this the same prosecutor who messed up the case of the 6 yr old girl murdered last year? Edited February 23, 2012 by Bruce

[Old55]

Madness.

[Tatoosh]

He was accompanied by a woman from Bacolod City, who said she was his fiancée and that the little girl was her cousin.

Okay, so he is not alone with the girl as initially reported. So we are left wondering how they "found" them after being reported by the neighbor on a different island. We have about three possible scenarios.

A) There was a report and there may be some factual basis to the claim. No way to know at this point, but the initial interview with the girl saying there was not sexual activity along with the later admission he was in fact, not alone with the child, makes abuse look more and more unlikely.

B) There was a report by a neighbor, but likely it may be a vindictive sort that wants to cause problems. That does happen here (and elsewhere in the world).

C) The cops made up the neighbor's report to further enhance their arrest and detention, particularly if the girl has a relative (cousin is likely within the 4th degree as required by the law).

Edited February 23, 2012 by Tatoosh

[Mike S]

Its always a foreigner who gets charged with this offence, Doesn't it apply to Filipino `s

Brock .... I think the main reason more Pilipinos are not charged is because they look like one of the parents ..... as a foreigner definitely does look like the child ...... if the child looked more like a foreigner than I don't think anyone would be questioned .....Bruce as I mentioned on the post I did on this subject in another thread here you are absolutely correct .... by the time they get done with her she won't know what to say ...... these people are damn good at getting children to say what they want them to say....... one such trick is to look at the girl and say "did he touch you down there" and at the same time nod their head up in down in a positive manner ...... I know I went through this with the Social Services in the US with my daughter and her step-mother ..... I was a start-up engineer with a company I worked for when I got a call from a friend who worked in the Social Services depart ..... he told me I better get home and what was going on ..... by the time I got there I was p*ssed and in no mood to listen to the old biddies in that department's crap ..... first thing I did was demand to talk to my daughter who was 10 at the time and was raised up not to lie ..... she told me they kept at her until she told them that her step-mom had spanked her and sent her to bed with no supper ..... she told this to some kids in school the next day and they told her teacher ..... well you can guess the rest ..... I told the old hag in charge of the case that I would sue them for child abuse as they had forced her to file a complain against her step-mother when there was no complaint warranted...... after I explained to them what my daughter told me ..... they couldn't get us to the door fast enough ..... explaining over and over again that they only acted in good faith ..... I asked the woman if she had kids ..... she wasn't even married and looked to be at least 50+ .......Yea I know all about how they can maneuver a child into saying anything they want them too ....... as I said in the other post .... he is screwed ...... if guilty of actual child abuse hang the SOB Edited February 23, 2012 by Mike S

[FlyAway]

Anyone happen to notice the child was from Masbate?Jonny Lagstrem and his fiancee' were detained at the port in Cebu. Their destination was Masabe.As usual we do not know the full story. They were taking the child back to her home province from what the article sort of eludes to.Just makes us foreigners subject to extra questioning anywhere we go.

[Jollygoodfellow]

Just complete madness.Nothing here says any wrong doing was going on other than a very stupid law.This puts all at risk even those who think they are doing a good deed by providing a jollibee meal if a Filipino adult is not accompanying the child.Why is this girl getting child psychologist attending her when she already said nothing happened?How far does this go,you have a Filipina friend who has a daughter,the mother leaves the room to go to the toilet so by this law you are in breach of the law. :mocking:

[Mike S]

How far does this go,you have a Filipina friend who has a daughter,the mother leaves the room to go to the toilet so by this law you are in breach of the law.

Afraid so JGF ...... as a famous person once said ...... "the law is da law" ..... if you go by the strictest sense of the law you would be in violation ...... and being as you are a foreigner you can expect no leniency ...... as someone pointed out this law is for everybody ..... but we all know that that isn't always so nor is it always practiced here or anywhere else for that matter ..... remember the old additive "you gots money ..... and I wants it"