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MikeB Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Heck, an actor (I think his name was Ben Afflek) was blacklisted from entering the RP just for making a joke about Filipinos and he wasn't even in the RP. In fact, I'm risking the same just by writing this. I have found that many locals don't even want us here. The actor was Alec Baldwin and the joke was about Filipino mail order brides told on Letterman. I don't disagree with what you're saying about many locals not wanting us here but that could be applied to every country in the world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike S Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Well all except the US and there you are forced to love everybody in the world or you are accused of being a racist and can actually be jailed for your opinions ..... ain't 1st world countries great ...... all I can say is I'm glad I live in a 3rd word country ...... where only if I say something against Pilipinos can I get into trouble ...... as far as I'm concerned it is a step up ........ :lol: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billten Posted March 6, 2012 Popular Post Posted March 6, 2012 If you are going to live here and married to a Filipino than she can certainly own the weapon and keep it in your house. Not even citizens can carry guns unless it is part of their business or job required such as security guard, police officer, etc. etc. etc.I actually tried to find an incident where a foreigner who was married and living in the Philippines used a firearm in the defense of his property or a threat to his life but was not able to locate one. My own opinion is that if I choose to need a weapon then it would be owned by my wife and keep in a secure area of our residence. If I had to use the weapon to defend my wife and property then I would use it and take my chances in court if I was to get arrestedI think what generally happens is that you shoot the crap out of the guy and then plead that 'the wife did it' and that you were still in bed.I agree. One thing I've noticed fairly consistantly with many of the expats I've met and / or talked to, there seems to be a perception that the basic rights we all have in our own countries (1st World) are universal and absolute anywhere we go. The harsh reality is that is not true. Many countries on this planet have few if no rights for it's own citizens never mind foreigners. Many expats don't realize just how overly proud and nationalistic the RP truly is. Yes, the RP has many of the same rights our countries do except for one important point. Those rights only apply to it's natural born RP citizens only. They DO NOT apply to foreigners. For example, in the US, everyone including foreigners have the right to free speech as our constitution guarantees that right to all who are on US soil. No so in the RP. A foreigner can be arrested, jailed, deported, & blacklisted just for stating his or her opinion here. Heck, an actor (I think his name was Ben Afflek) was blacklisted from entering the RP just for making a joke about Filipinos and he wasn't even in the RP. In fact, I'm risking the same just by writing this. I have found that many locals don't even want us here. They tolorate us because of our perceived wealth they think we have and want some of it. Ok. I'll get off my soap box now....One thing that took a long time for me to sink in is the fact that the Philippines is unlike most places in that is doesn't WANT immigrants, you are now and always be a visitor. The assumption that, if you 'be a good citizen' and stay out of trouble for several years, you will be able to get the rights of all the people around you, IS NONSENSE...As a visitor, you are held to a different standard to the locals and expected to like it, coz if you don't like it, the door is over there.I love this place and hope to die (in a while) here, that doesn't mean i have blinkers on about exactly what my status is around here... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve & Myrlita Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 One thing that took a long time for me to sink in is the fact that the Philippines is unlike most places in that is doesn't WANT immigrants, you are now and always be a visitor. The assumption that, if you 'be a good citizen' and stay out of trouble for several years, you will be able to get the rights of all the people around you, IS NONSENSE...As a visitor, you are held to a different standard to the locals and expected to like it, coz if you don't like it, the door is over there.I love this place and hope to die (in a while) here, that doesn't mean i have blinkers on about exactly what my status is around here...That has been my understanding as well. Even if you stay here the full 8-13 years and pay all the fees and pass all the tests and you actually become a naturalized RP citizen, nothing will change. For even though the written law says you are a citizen, culturally & reality wise, you will forever be viewed and treated as a foreigner. If this will ever change it will not be in our lifetime. Yes it sounds negative but reality is reality and this is from someone who has lived here since Sept 2007. If I want to keep living here, I have no choice but to live with it. Otherwise, all you will end up doing is banging your head against the wall (Which I have done). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave Hounddriver Posted March 6, 2012 Popular Post Posted March 6, 2012 For even though the written law says you are a citizen, culturally & reality wise, you will forever be viewed and treated as a foreigner. Even I am guilty of this. I met an OLD Baptist missionary in the local town the other day. He told about being in the US Navy during the second world war and then coming to the Philippines in 1948 and being a missionary here ever since. You can tell I am not exaggerating that this guy is OLD. He and his wife are well respected in the community but my first thought on seeing the guy was: Oh, another foreigner.Now I realize he has been here since before I was born and he is still treated as a foreigner. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1948 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Posted March 6, 2012 Thank you all for your comments. My wife is from Davao and yes I know she can have guns but from what I heard if I pick her gun up, even to clean it I can go to jail for life. I have had guns all my life. I have been a California Peace Officer and carried a gun with me every where for my own protection. I never had to use it on anyone. I hope someday this law will change in the PI so we can protect our families. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billten Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 what I heard if I pick her gun up, even to clean it I can go to jail for life. I have had guns all my lifeHmmm, its not quite so anal as that. What i think the members are saying is 'you better not shoot someone, coz you gonna be in a world of ugly'. I go shooting with PNP officers and such and even being a white guy, there is never a problem. I am sure if i popped an intruder at my place, there would be trouble. That is why i use dogs as a disincentive to intruders, they are not a problem... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve & Myrlita Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) The way I see it, being able to defend yourself is by their thinking you have rights and in the RP, foreigners have none whatsoever. I've heard some say we do but considering the nationalistic mindset that I myself as well as many of you who also live here have seen, do you really want to put it to the test here in an RP court? Or with the locals? I wouldn't. Of course to each their own. Edited March 6, 2012 by Steve & Myrlita 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curley Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 You carried a gun all your life "to defend yourself" but never used it.......... do you really need one then? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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