School Says Faceboook ‘Bikini’ Case Is About Taking Responsibility

[TheMason]

IMO this is arrogance plain and simple. If the parents has kneeled and kissed the ring when the nun's called their daughters whores 'no problem'. But when the parents suggested that there should be a separation between church / school and home life, brrrrr. "Challenge our right to tell you how to live your life would you".

The people who run that school feel they have the right to tell all the parents everywhere exactly how to raise their children, they are right and you are wrong, because obviously, they have God on their side.

If the parents wanted a separation between church/school and home life, then why did they send their kids to Catholic school? The Catholic schools are not free, you have to pay quite a bit of money to attend. Nobody forces anyone to attend Catholic school or the Catholic church, if you opt to join the Church, then follow the Church rules.

In this case, it was the parents blurring the line between Church and State by asking the secular courts to rule on an internal Church matter.

[i am bob]

Wow! I gotta butt in here for a moment.

This is a school that is at the base of the problem. Yes, it is a Catholic school which means it is suppose to reflect Catholic sensibilities... But the school itself is run the way the person in charge sees fit. Not what the church says. Not what the people who send their children there say either. Both can and should influence the running of the school but the daily overall person who says what goes is the Head Master - just like any other private school. Now can the church change her rulings? Yes, but then they have to remove her from her position of authority if she does not accede to their wishes. They should normally just ask her to put into place the changes so desired and she should comply. Has this happened? I doubt it. I don't think this has moved beyond the local priest. And most lower level authorities don't like to cause waves. Now have the parents challenged this? Yes, in a court of law - and the court agreed. Is that the end of the story? No... Because even though the state (the law of the country) says that the school has to follow certain criteria, they do not specifically say anywhere in their official directives that the school cannot do what they have done. Rather their directives to be followed allow for this to happen. So how do they solve this? The parents will have to approach the church and keep asking for higher authority until they can reasonably debate the cures they thus seek. As for the side lawsuits? Glad I'm not the judge who has to stroll through that mess! And I glad that I"m also not the person in the Catholic Church who will have to clear up the mess from their side either. The only way I can see both sides walking away reasonably happy is for the church to remove the Head Mistress and revamp the Trustees / BoD to new people who, though still strict in their ways, will also show a little more compassion as appropriate for their positions as well as for these more "modern" times. Then the records of the students should be changed to reflect only an in-school discipline as well as some kind of apology to these students as well as their families. The courts will then be able to dismiss charges from both sides and hopefully all will be calm when the smoke clears. If they don't follow through to such a conclusion, the legal battles can mount to the point where both a) the families will be ostricized from society as well as b) bring about a rift throughout the church as never seen before.

If you want to find a lesson in all of this, I would suggest the following: Regardless of anyone's beliefs - be they religious, moral or political - always treat others the way you wish to be treated yourself. Discussion will go further in correcting any supposed wrongs being committed. Be open to such discussions - try to see the other side and if there is room for one or both to move on to correct the situation. But if you must, and you are the one in charge of punishment, punish humanely. Ask yourself if, should you have been the person in the wrong, is this a proper and acceptable punishment for you?

[Call me bubba]

althou I cant remember what occurred, but the SCHOOL was served with some "papers" and they REFUSED to HONOR the court.

this serves to others,, why follow the law, as you can decide on what you want to do.

I have stayed out of this as THIS IS PURE B....S...t. :angry: as I have other things to find or comment on, TILL NOW

without seeming to be a DOM or pervert, (my words not others) I have looked at some of these girls(teen/preteen) facebooks and

I am SHOCKED at what I see,(why am i looking,, I monitor my childs FB activity thats why )

yes it could be considered ones expression(there photos) but it can come back to BITE THEM IN THE B..TT at a later time.

[jode]

St. Theresa's is located in a rough section of cebu close to Osema circle in fuente. The center of the sex-pat and seedy bikini bar scene. It is close at hand to mango square and the incredible meat market of Juliana's disco. Anyone who ventures into that place will be stunned by the wanton sexuality, and if you want to leave unaccompanied it won't be easy.

I think the teachers and administrators at St. Theresa's are fighting a losing battle to keep their girls the prim and proper Catholic girls they graduated in past. I know some St. Theresa's college girls and some take their rebellion from those traditional norms to the extreme. There is a problem with lesbianism at the school and a pic in question was of girls together in shower.

I think this happened out of frustration felt by administrators over losing the battle for the morality of their students, and the desire to make an example of some, who they believe, may be leading their classmates astray. A warning to students and their parents that further erosion of the values St. Theresa's stands for, will not be tolerated, and that there are consequences for those who ignore the warning.

Why don't they just expel students who don't live up to the standards they are looking for? Well they do (I know one), but they can't expel all, or there wouldn't be enough left to keep the school viable. Its not cheap to go to school there and not all who go there are from well off families. There are differant schools for the rich. They have to struggle to make tuition payments along with the struggle between the values of popular culture and the area around them versus the traditional age old catholic values in their school envirenment.

The question of what is the perogative of the church, and what is the perogative of the state, is one of the great questions in western history for almost 2000 years, and the cause of many of its greatest conflicts. Maybe St. Theresas administrators want to open up that question for review again. The Philippnes is one of the last places where they might have the power to suceed left in the christian world.