Canadian Citizen Killed In Surigao City

[Jollygoodfellow]

Bodin claims to know a lots about Harry Doyle and why he was murdered for someone who lives far away from Harry in Manila. I noticed that he didn't have an explanation of why the wife was in the CR and the Bodyguard was not present during the murder.

Bodin IP says he is in the UK, interesting?

[Curley]

Bodin claims to know a lots about Harry Doyle and why he was murdered for someone who lives far away from Harry in Manila. I noticed that he didn't have an explanation of why the wife was in the CR and the Bodyguard was not present during the murder.

Bodin IP says he is in the UK, interesting?

A proxy address?

[jamesmusslewhite]

As for Harry's family if the old will were to remain then 1/3 to a son in the USA, 1/3 too these special needs son Joseph, and 1/3 to Jane herself. The Executive of the will did not know of the two insurance policies; one is a 50,000 dollar policy going to Jane, and a 200,000 dollar policy going to the estate. and this They were also unaware that there was a new Will cutting out his two sons and leaving it all for her. The family discovered this only after Jane got to Canada, not before. So your question on who benefits most from Harry's death is a valid one Who benefits most if Jane gets it all? They have a few properties here put their is money owed on them. Then there is Jane's pregnancy. Too many people who have seen her extra cozy with the new driver Jerome. She has been too many observation of this over-familiarity with her hired help. Most believe here that her yet unborn child is in fact Jerome's child. I am sure a simple DNA can be done to either prove or disprove this suspicion by the locals and police.

I doubt you have ever been to Surigao City and have no real knowledge of what has been going on here. I do have a genuine respect for the police investigators here and in the legal system of this city. Your silly cynical remarks show you actually don't know everything that you claim to know as it relates to Surigao City though perhaps that is the way it is in Manila and Cebu, but this is not Manila or Cebu. In fact your are just a little limited on the facts and short on the knowledge. Perhaps you can mention several other on your list? I promise I will hand that information over to the investigators here as I have done with all credible information that I have received from Harry's friends trying to solve the murder.

[jamesmusslewhite]

Bodin claims to know a lots about Harry Doyle and why he was murdered for someone who lives far away from Harry in Manila. I noticed that he didn't have an explanation of why the wife was in the CR and the Bodyguard was not present during the murder.

Bodin IP says he is in the UK, interesting?

Fredericton, New Brunswick more likely... but showed his location as Manila.

I thinks I smell a rat.....

Edited September 20, 2012 by jamesmusslewhite

[MikeB]

you have proven yourself to be a honest man of high moral character and integrity.

Do you personally know this person well or just through forums?

[Ashanti]

Besides, what Phillipine wife would hire a hit man to kill her husband? We are talking about the Phillipines, here! Do you really think a woman who wanted to get rid of her husband would hire someone to kill him in such a public way?

That’s interesting 1^st post!

You seems to know a lot of the personages of this tragic saga and is so free in your inference of possible murderer without being upfront of your credentials. So may I return the favour??????????

Are you by any chance Jane Doyle, her Lawyer or her paid apologist?????????

Why your sainted Jane herself doesn’t post a defence of all the innuendos and accusations sprouting all over the internet????????? Certainly the PNP cannot reach her or find her whereabouts from posting in an open forum?!. Have I been the tragic widow, I would certainly, mount a spirited defence on my name, not just for myself but for the sake of my son who would be justifiably upset at losing his father but also of his mum being accused of his fathers murder.

And can you tell me of a foreigner who does not make sure that his minor disabled son is not taken care of in his will but instead leave everything in the control of the wife???????????? A wife who I understand from some independent post he was publicly scathing of??????????

Oh btw, you should do more research before you post if you want to convince expats with your naïve question! Heres one to get you started …………

http://www.dailymail...murder-son.html

Edited September 21, 2012 by Ashanti

[i am bob]

Who killed Harry Doyle?

Some say his wife, Jane did it and that she had a boyfriend. I don't think so. If you knew Harry you know that there is no way his wife would be able to pull anything over on him! Whatever relationships she had, he was fully aware of them and the exact nature of them. So, don't think she had a lover and that she would kill Harry for this man. Nonsense!

Besides, what Phillipine wife would hire a hit man to kill her husband? We are talking about the Phillipines, here! Do you really think a woman who wanted to get rid of her husband would hire someone to kill him in such a public way? Whoever had Harry killed was making a statement. He was gunned down in public and riddled with bullets to make sure he was dead! Someone was sending a message. Someone wanted to make a great display of what the consequences would be if anyone crossed crossed him. And if you knew Harry, you know he crossed many people. So, take your eyes off Jane for a minute and look at who might have a reason to want Harry disposed of in such a demonstrative and horrendous manner!

What about JM, the man pointing the finger at Jane? Was he really a friend of Harry's? Communications between Harry and JM clearly show that Harry thought this man had attempted to kill him last February; that this man owed Harry money and that there was indeed animosity between them. Then ask yourself, "What expat in ANY South East Asian country would be so naive as to think that the police would seek and carry out justice? JM said in an interview with The Daily Gleaner, Harry's home town paper, that he has great faith in the legal system. Nonsense! Who here has faith in the local police? He says he fears for his life, suggesting that Jane is after him. Nonsense! Does he really fear a woman who cannot stop crying over the loss of her husband? No! More likely, he fears the police! Why would that be? What would the police have on him? Maybe he is doing his best to stay on the good side of the police and deflect the pointing finger away from himself and towards Harry's wife.

And what about Harry's accountant, KL who Harry accused of fraud? Apparently, she embezzled several thousand dollars from his hotel. And what about her boyfriend AS, a former driver who owed Harry a great deal of money for the construction of his house? And what about the German guests who refused to pay their hotel bill in Harry's absence? Apparently, Harry took action against them leaving one man in a whell chair.

Ask yourself this, "Who stands to gain if Jane is held responsible for Harry's death?"

Well, apparently there is a $1.6 Million life insurance policy, not to mention his substantial assets in Asia and in Canada. Jane would not be entitled to collect the insurance if found guilty of murder. And if guilty, she would not be entitled to the proceeds of the crime, so the estate would not be given to her regardless of Harry's desire that she inherit it. So, who would reap the benefits of these two, very significant sources of money?

Well, aside from Harry's family members, consider how justice is carried out in SEA. You have to know that whatever crime one might commit, the police can be bought and the perpetrator can go free. It happens all the time. So, would the police in the Phillipines not want Jane in their custody as the prime suspect? She would have to pay her way out of trouble. They could extort all her current assets then release her as 'not guilty' so that the will would clear probate and the insurance would be released. Jane would then have 'all that money' for them to extort. Greed is a powerful motivator and no where in the world is that more apparent than with the police in South East Asia. Expats are considered fair game for extortion. Why not Jane? It would not be expedient to find her guilty, but it would certainly mean a great deal of money for police and court officials if she were accused but never tried. The payoffs could and probably would devour all of Harry's assets.

Furthermore, all of those people who are accusing Jane either have a financial interest in her being found guilty or are suspect themselves. If Jane is guilty the insurance would go to another family member; the estate would be inherited by another family member. Family members who have been estranged from Harry for years are suddenly showing concern for their dearly departed,- no doubt, cued up for some financial gain from his estate.

I knew Harry and I know how things are done in SEA and I have seen what greed can do to people. And I have seen many 'scams' and 'frame ups' in Asia.

Whatever you might say about Harry, if you knew him, you know he had a lot of enemies; many more than the few listed here. People who owed him money, such as JM, KL and AS would have motive to kill him. People he insulted or were outright hurt, physically or financially would also have reason to take revenge. Why focus only on Jane? She had it all already. Why kill the goose that lays the golden egg? There was no need to kill him, he was doing a fine job of killing himself without her help. And even if you still think she wanted him dead, she most certainly would have found a more dicreet way of seeing to it, such as falling off a boat at sea or off a cliff, or a motor vehicle accident, or just dying in his sleep. Surely she would not want all the attention a horrendous act of violence draws

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I think there should be a proper, independant investigation done before charges are laid against a woman whose grif is clearly overwhelming! Buy hey! That's not how things are done is it?

There are so many things I find wrong with your post...

I'm sorry but I can't find what you wrote to be credible. There was just too much blaming certain people as well as the police. Sure, nobody is perfect but you made these people sound like THEY are guilty of Harry's murder and have bought off the police. Where is the evidence? I did not see any in your post. In the past I have defended Jane for the same reason - we were not being shown any evidence that she was guilty at that time. Since then more information has become available. I'm still not convinced enough that I have heard the true and full story. But I also am not accusing others of such a serious crime without proof. You claim you are in Manila? May I ask how you knew about the interview in The Daily Gleaner? It is a small town newspaper and access to it's reports are not accessible on-line without obtaining a membership. Are you that much in contact with Jane? Wouldn't that then put you on the same list of suspects? Or is there a logical explanation? I could follow this post logically (though unproven) until I came to the part where the police of "SEA" were all accused of being not only corrupt but that this whole thing was an extortion attempt against Jane Doyle.

[jamesmusslewhite]

Point: A

JM said in an interview with The Daily Gleaner, Harry's home town paper, that he has great faith in the legal system. Nonsense! Who here has faith in the local police? He says he fears for his life, suggesting that Jane is after him. Nonsense! Does he really fear a woman who cannot stop crying over the loss of her husband? No! More likely, he fears the police! Why would that be? What would the police have on him? Maybe he is doing his best to stay on the good side of the police and deflect the pointing finger away from himself and towards Harry's wife.

Point B

And what about the German guests who refused to pay their hotel bill in Harry's absence? Apparently, Harry took action against them leaving one man in a whell chair.

Point C

I think there should be a proper, independant investigation done before charges are laid against a woman whose grif is clearly overwhelming! Buy hey! That's not how things are done is it?

I will talk shortly about these three points you brought up.

Point 1-

I have faith in the police here because they have earned my respect. Too many of them I have met through other local friends I have met while living here. Many of the expats here have police in their own family. My wife has sever high ranking officers who are family members in several different departments and branches. We are after all a city of only 140,000 inhabitants so everyone families are closely associated.

Why do I feel like my life is possibly in danger? Perhaps it is the fact that I have to have an armed PNP escort team just to go into town. That I am presently on "house protective custody". That I have to keep a loaded .45 on or by me at all times. That I sleep by day and have to patrol my home all night. That 2:30 Monday morning I stopped 3 men who were trying to breaking through our front gate. That my home has to be regularly patrolled 24/7. That my son has to be escorted to and from school from his school. That the police investigators themselves are receiving death threats and are being stalked. That one witness dropped out due to this intimidation and even had to pull his children out of school. Perhaps because the threat here is real....

Point 2

Put in a wheelchair? What a load of horse-sh&t. Harry walked up on his blindside and sucker punched the boy in the eye while he was sitting down eating lunch at Victor's Place... hahaha put him in a wheelchair, you funny boy. Who told you that grand story? Jane?

(AS) now Arnel was put in a wheelchair for life when he was shot in the back trying to escape Jerome the bodyguard.

Point 3

Yes there should be, you need to hire you a P.I. to come here and get the real story, because you are being fed a load of bull chips son and then there is the fact you are spewing this pollution out in this forum. I can tell you are talking directly to Jane by a few of your comments, so tell her to come back and help the police to clear their suspicions of her. It is her actions that is making her look bad, and if she were to volunteer to come home to explain things it could probably be essliy resolved if innocent.

And if you had actually read my post #36 you would see that I was being very respectful to Jane in this thread. I hope she is innocent. I hope she is not a evil monster who shot her husband in front of their autistic child just for his money. I actually like Jane and have tried not to get caught up in this mess. The problem is Jane is the Prime suspect because of her own actions and has refused to help clear up the problem. Please hire a P.I. and see if you can get better information than I have been able to compile on this case. Jane needs all the help she will need, so they will not handcuff her and fly her back to a Surigao City jail cell to await the trial. I have been trying to find anything that could free her of these suspicions. The problem is the deeper you dig the more stink you find, and one can only hold their breath so long.

Now you mentioned earlier about money owed Harry.

(JM) Harry actually still owes me money, but I forgave that debt, and still tried to be friends even though he was a compulsive liar. He told ever expat here that he was Dr. Harry Doyle (Cancer Research) the fool even offered the expat wives free breast exams. There was a reason we all called him "Crazy Harry". Damn I am not going to get bent out of shape over $300. I just look at it like this..... The rich powerful Canadian Millionaire had to ?????? the yardman because he could not afford the $300 bill. Hell it is worth it, just to be able to say it about the little Canook big-time businessman cancer research doctor millionaire punk. It is funny when you think of it, and deserves more pity than anger. He is just lucky that I was a better friend than he ever was.. I was a good friend to Harry, and I am still being a better friend than he ever was to me. I never lied, cheated, or stole from the man and I forgave his many slights, insults, and selfish acts towards me. Most expats living here did not even like sitting at the same table with the man.

I have also worked hard and at great personal risk to myself and my family trying to get justice for his special-needs son Joseph, and have taken great effort in my reporting of the facts as released by police trying to not accuse or implicate Jane as the murder, and my statements posted on this forum and others are proof of that; until I had to use damaging facts as to not allow your baseless mud-slinging to unfairly and falsely implicate me in a murder attempt from which I have already been cleared by the investigators on the scene. I was a far better friend to Harry than he ever was, but I have serious doubts about what type of friend you actually were.

(KL) Miss. Kima you said owed Harry thousands? THOUSANDS??? Harry only believed that she had embezzled 30,000 pesos ($800). I got that from Harry himself in his Facebook messages to me to know that to be true... I know this to be a fact because we fired Miss. Kima and collected her bank books, paperwork, and company laptop and talked to their lawyer. Since two gallons of gasoline (the can was left at the scene) was poured around their home by two people that looked suspiciously identical to Jane's brother and driver Jerome leaving on a bike just like the one owned by Harry and Jane as the fire was blazing. And then Harry was witnessed there at daybreak looking over the scene of the fire with great interest. And since Miss. Kima has proof the money was used to pay the bills for their business and Jane's personal business . Perhaps... just perhaps... the $800 dollars has been paid in full. As a side note her father had just come home from the hospital having been released after having both legs amputated, he died shortly after the fire. Miss. Kima has been hiding from the Doyles since November last year..

and since (AL) Arnel was shot and almost killed. He is after all Jane's cousin by marriage and one of her former loverboys (Harry told that one to me himself). Who was forced to work off that debt Jane dumped on him so she could cover monies she had taken behind Harry's back. He is also hiding in fear for his life... So since he was forced to work off the debt and then left paralyzed for life for his association with Jane and Harry, some more intelligent men just might think he no longer owes Harry a damn thing.

So what do these three people (JM), (KL), and (AS) still have in common? Why is one in house custody, and two are still in hiding? What is the common denominator they share with the death threat to investigators and witnesses? Come on Dick Tracy please tell us you take on this sad tale... Please Hire a P.I. son because I fear Jane is taking your ignorant butt for a roller-coaster ride into that "STUPID WALL"... Do yourself a favor hire a P.I. so you will not be used like a foolish tool by a woman desperate because she knows that all her Karma is coming to roost. Them when you get you facts right then post something that helps Jane. I have not posted this information or anything like this information on this forum or any of the other forums until you post your ignorant hit-peace try to drag me into you Jane induced lie.

I have much more, so if she or you wish to continue to try to use this forum to tell lies about me as an attempt to try to discredit me, than I will have no choice but start telling more truths about Jane... You not doing Jane any favors boy, you have done her more harm than you did her good. Perhaps you need to just go away, because you are opening a big can of worms Jane does not want told.... Yes you need to hire you a P.I.

UP TILL YOUR POST TRYING TO DISCREDIT ME THIS IS WHAT I POSTED ABOUT JANE - Post #36

"To the best of my knowledge she is a Filipino citizen, though she may have held a Residence Card. They have lived here in the Philippines almost exclusively for at least 8 years and returns back to Canada once a year for a few months.

The police believe that she is dodging them with make them very suspicious, but perhaps she is just too grief stricken to want to deal with investigators at this time, and merely wants to wait until she has returned Harry home. People often handle grief differently. I am not going to make accusations about a woman having committed such an evil act, unless she has been charged by the police. Though I believe in the rights of "Free Speech", I am still a larger proponent of one's right to be "Innocent Until Proven Guilty". I am not one to engage in unsubstantiated accusations, malicious gossip, or tabloidism. I have learned over the years that often public opinion, police suspicions, and bias reporting can all be wrong. I am only reporting on the facts as I learn them, out of respect to Harry's wife, his son, his family, and his friends; also my engaging in such activities can be counterproductive for an investigation that is still ongoing."

So what in this statement is "pointing and accusing finger at Jane"? I was probably a better friend to Harry than you are being.

Edited September 21, 2012 by MikeB
Removed derogatory names

[Julia]

My condolence to Mr. Doyle's family....

this is so sad to read... the wife had suffered enough for the death of his husband. it is hard to cope living as a widow, yet what is more difficult to deal with are the people who seemed to think that you are behind his death. I always believe that all man/woman are good in nature, I guess in my part, i will give the wife the benefit of all the doubts.... but if I were in her place and not guilty of anything, I wouldn't care about all the insurance policy or whatever....

but if she will fight for it like it is all that she ever wanted---- well, that is another story that I would rather not hear about....

[Americano]

you have proven yourself to be a honest man of high moral character and integrity.

Do you personally know this person well or just through forums?

I haven't met James in person and we have never spoken to each other on the phone or on a forum. My opinion of him is based on reading many posts from him on this forum and other forums over the last 3 years. There are very few people I would make the same comment about.