Canadian Citizen Killed In Surigao City

[Markham]

I believe they chose it because unlike murder it is a non-bailable offense. I believe the fear is that with the money she had already receive while in Canada would allow her to pay the bail imposed and then flee trying to elude the charges. Jane had already showed that she was willing to be illusive and uncooperative; and perhaps intentionally tried to allude the investigators, and with purpose refused to answer their questions, or helping to assist in their investigation in the murder of her spouse.

 

Murder and Homicide are also non-bailable offences in the Philippines. Jane Doyle was charged with Parricide simply because that is the legally correct offence in her case  and, to me, that shows that the Prosecutor has exercised due diligence in ensuring that her lawyers could not "get her off" on the technicality of being charged with the wrong offence. I would hope that the Surigao PNP contacts the PNP's Interpol Liason Officer and requests that a "Red Notice" be posted citing her as a 'fugitive from justice' and also arrange for a copy of her Arrest Warrant to be forwarded to the RCMP. The Philippines has signed an Extradition Treaty with Canada and this has been in force since 1990 but Prosecutors may not need it since they can request Jane Doyle's deportation - but they will need the "Red Notice" and Arrest Warrant sent to Ottawa first. A request for deportation should result in her arrest and detention pending resolution.

Edited August 17, 2013 by Markham

[HarryBeatMeAtTennis]

James you are a prince of a man for hanging in there and risking everything to see justice done and the murderers of our friend held to account.

Harry would be thanking you as well..

[Americano]

Sounds like a bunch of childish none sense to me. If someone is guilty of murder then put them in prison. Why give it some weird name that only confuses the matter?

[Call me bubba]

 Why give it some weird name that only confuses the matter?

I agree with you.after reading about many different crimes over the years

that it has "some silly"names to us but this is THEIR justice system

 

and it is the "right"(there)way to describe a certain crime

 

yes murder is murder but what then is manslaughter? or involuntarily manslaughter then?homicide? etc etc..

its still a death caused by another

 

par·ri·cide  (pr-sd)

n.

1. The murdering of one's father, mother, or other near relative.

2. One who commits such a murder.

 

mur·der  (mûrdr)

n.

1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

2. Slang Something that is very uncomfortable, difficult, or hazardous: The rush hour traffic is murder.

3. A flock of crows. See Synonyms at flock¹.

 

v. mur·dered, mur·der·ing, mur·ders

v.tr.

1. To kill (another human) unlawfully.

2. To kill brutally or inhumanly.

3. To put an end to; destroy: murdered their chances.

4. To spoil by ineptness; mutilate: a speech that murdered the English language.

5. Slang To defeat decisively; trounce.

 

I post this not to offend or upset any one but sometimes we may forget the actual meaning of a word

its just to refresh 1 .

[Jake]

Here are a couple more curve balls in the Philippines justice system.  I went through their political science

class and was confused about frustrated murder and frustrated rape.  Technically, the term is correct but

the intention of charging someone with these crimes still makes me want to say......WTF?

[Steve & Myrlita]

Here are a couple more curve balls in the Philippines justice system.  I went through their political science

class and was confused about frustrated murder and frustrated rape.  Technically, the term is correct but

the intention of charging someone with these crimes still makes me want to say......WTF?

Remember "KISS" doesn't aply here hehe. Attempted Murder or Attempted Rape would be too easy. Also kudos for not going to allow bail. If it was granted, she will bolt and disappear. Guaranteed.

[Markham]

Sounds like a bunch of childish none sense to me. If someone is guilty of murder then put them in prison. Why give it some weird name that only confuses the matter?

There are two main reasons why there are different names for, effectively, the same offence, in this case murder.

1. It enables legislators to set different punishment tariffs for each type of "murder"
2. It helps prevent case law from one kind of "murder" affecting the trial of another kind of "murder" - which would happen if everyone was charged with "murder".

[robert k]

I just finished reading this whole thread again. :1 (172):  :23_11_59[1]:

[Americano]

Is the punishment for murdering a close relative greater or less than the punishment for murdering someone who is not a relative?  And, do they also have categories for murdering a rich person and a homeless person. We all know that homeless people are the lowest class of people so maybe there's no punishment for murdering them.

 

The punishment for murdering another human being should be the same for everyone regardless if they are a family member or are rich or poor, young or old. All human life has the same value. Therefore, I don't see any need for categories with weird names that most people don't even know what they mean.

[Jake]

Is the punishment for murdering a close relative greater or less than the punishment for murdering someone who is not a relative?  And, do they also have categories for murdering a rich person and a homeless person. We all know that homeless people are the lowest class of people so maybe there's no punishment for murdering them.

 

The punishment for murdering another human being should be the same for everyone regardless if they are a family member or are rich or poor, young or old. All human life has the same value. Therefore, I don't see any need for categories with weird names that most people don't even know what they mean.

I am frustrated as you are Americano.  But these days no matter what country, lawyers for both sides will have

very different interpretations of the same exact law.  Then you have plea bargaining or case dismissed because

of some stupid technicality.  

 

As you may know, the one judge court system in the Philippines is very slow and full of corruptions.  Either the

witnesses are paid off to testify for the benefit of the highest bidder or simply made to disappear.  Sometimes

I prefer using the Rules of the Jungle.  You know, take care of it yourself....he, he.

 

Respectfully -- Jake