Canadian Citizen Killed In Surigao City

[jamesmusslewhite]

 

There are many in citizens in Canada who are trying to find out where the arrest warrant and case file is located. The PNP passed the paperwork to the Manila branch of INTERPOL who are tasked with sending the paperwork Ottawa, Canada. After 2 months nobody in Canada can verify that they have even received the documents. They seem content to simply pass the buck to another agency in what is becoming a bureaucratic game ping pong. The arrest warrant was issued by the Surigao City courts over three months ago. So who lost it? Did the Manila PNP heads forward the paperwork as is their duty, is INTERPOL inept, or the Canadian authorities incompetent?

 

My money would back the possibility that the document(s) never left Manila.

 

But James, there is no earthly reason why the trial against all the defendants can not proceed although Johnny Parian's absence is a little awkward. Jane Doyle can be tried in her absence which is precisely what is taking place in Cebu City with regards to Ian Griffiths.

 

Has the Surigao Prosecutor asked the PNP to post an Interpol "Red Notice" in respect of Jane Doyle? Has the Prosecutor asked the DFA for Consular Assistance in getting Mrs Doyle arrested pending extradition back to the Philippines?

 

The PNP have said that it was passed to the Manila office of INTERPOL well over two months ago. The office of INTERPOL had even previously contacted the PNP investigators here in Surigao well over 3 months ago to check on the progress of the case file to be sent to them. So it appears to be either INTERPOL or Ottawa that are the cause of this mystery. As to the "Red Notice" that was included in the original case file when handed to INTERPOL. And to your question as to the Prosecutor and the DFA? I do not know at this time.

 

My money is on either INTERPOL or Ottawa as being the break in this chain. I hope it is all resolved in the next couple of weeks.

 

The situation between the case of Ian Griffiths (charged with Murder) is that the UK has refused to extradite where as Jane Doyle (charged with Parricide) has yet to be served the arrest warrant nor has the process of extradition been even started. They are really two completely different situations. Jane Doyle is considered to have masterminded the murder with Jerome Devocian and hired the brother Jeffery and Johnny Parian to commit the murder. Two different situations and two different charges. I also feel that in Cebu there was a rush to judgement and now they are trying to save face, where here in Surigao they conducted a smart investigation and are willing to wait until Jane return to properly have the opportunity to face her accusers as it should be. This could avoid her being released later during her appeals on the presumption she did not receive a proper trial where her civil rights were violated.

 

I personally would prefer how they are presently conducting this case as I only want to insure that Justice was properly served, and if she is convicted that it is done on the weight of the evidence in a trial that is fair and balanced, and not one based solely on the biases of public opinion or in a court determined merely to rush to a predetermined judgement. My personal feelings should not superseded her right to the presumption of innocence until proven to be guilty in a properly conducted court. And besides I have no problem making Jane sweat and worry when they are going to be handcuffed, with the two captured suspects to sit in a hot dirty crowded holding cell until the trial begins, and the time to pickup the other suspect Johnny Parian. I want them all sitting on the same bench together when the trial starts.   

Edited November 22, 2013 by jamesmusslewhite

[Thomas]

The arrest warrant was issued by the Surigao City courts over three months ago. So who lost it? Did the Manila PNP heads forward the paperwork as is their duty, is INTERPOL inept, or the Canadian authorities incompetent? I am going to the Surigao City PNP office and the Surigao City Prosecutors office today and verify that they are not the ones that are the cause of this mystery.

Why don't they just send a new one, if it's lost somewhere?...

[i am bob]

Want to know what I find really strange about this? The New Brunswick (provincial) police force is also the national police... The Royal Canadian Mounted Police or RCMP.

Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk...

Edited November 22, 2013 by I am bob

[jamesmusslewhite]

I was able to sit and discuss this issue with PNP Inspector Miole this afternoon and have resolved the proverbial monkey wrench in the works. Seems the PNP was contacted by a RCMP Liaison Officer back in September. It appears that there is in fact no standing formal treaty between Canada and the Philippines, so this is the process which must be followed even though INTERPOL and the RCMP are aware of the formal arrest warrant and case file waiting to be carried to an office in the same building in Camp Crome.

 

The Liaison Officer of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had contacted Task Force USIG of the Philippine National Police (PNP) Camp Crome, Manila on September 20, 2013 with questions regarding the updates of two (2) cases involving Canadian nationals. This (RCMP) Liaison Officer said that it is the job of the Phil. Embassy to inform the DFA, Manila Interpol. And that it is the family of Harry Doyle who must initiate this request. (These are the things that must transpire) Man you have to admire how bureaucracies simplify a system.

 

1. The family of Harry Doyle in Canada must first coordinate with the Philippine Embassy in Canada, writing a letter requesting the copy of the warrant of arrest of Jane “Undang” Doyle.

 

2. The Philippine Embassy in Canada then informs the DFA, Manila INTERPOL regarding the request.

3. Once the DFA, Manila INTERPOL is informed, the DFA now make a request to Chief PNP in Camp Crame, Manila of the said Warrant of Arrest. (in the same building)

4. Then the PNP sends a formal copy of the arrest warrant and case file to the DFA, Manila INTERPOL (in the same building)

5. After which, the DFA, Manila INTERPOL receives the arrest warrant and case file, they then forward them to the Philippine Embassy in Canada. Then the RCMP will have the authority to arrest Jane Doyle.

 

So I have sent this information to the Doyle family so they can finally get the ball rolling to get this done. I am just wondering why INTERPOL or the RCMP just did not call the family and inform them of this little glitch? Man this is priceless.

 

[Jake]

Hey Marine (James),

 

Perhaps Camp Crame (PNP headquarters in Manila) wanted more copies -- triplicates of triplicates.

Man, what a cluster puck!  

 

We appreciate all your updates, your tenacity to follow through (like a good Marine) and especially

your patience.  The family of Harry Doyle must be really frustrated to the max.  On the other hand,

it gives Jane more time to shop around for a customized wheel chair with matching neck brace for

her return back to PI (someday).

 

Respectfully -- Jake

Edited November 22, 2013 by Jake
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[Thomas]

1. The family of Harry Doyle in Canada must first coordinate with the Philippine Embassy in Canada, writing a letter requesting the copy of the warrant of arrest of Jane “Undang” Doyle.

What idiots have decided such rules?  :1 (103):  So if the murdered has no family, then the murderer will not be wanted abroad by Interpol???!!!...

[jamesmusslewhite]

 

1. The family of Harry Doyle in Canada must first coordinate with the Philippine Embassy in Canada, writing a letter requesting the copy of the warrant of arrest of Jane “Undang” Doyle.

What idiots have decided such rules?  :1 (103):  So if the murdered has no family, then the murderer will not be wanted abroad by Interpol???!!!...

 

I was just talking to Laverne Stewart the reporter from the N.B. Daily Gleaner who's articles I ofter post. She just gave me a possible reason why it has to be done this way. She said "I am guessing it's because of the federal privacy law. Because Jane didn't give permission for information to be released the government can't tell anyone else about the case including their need to ask for the warrant to be sent to proper channels." She said it is only her opinion but it makes sense as Jane Doyle has never signed an information release either here or in Canada. Lavern also added. "the feds and province are very, very careful about not sharing information because of the law. If it is broken there could be room for law suits. If Jane didn't sign a document saying information about the case could be released then the Canadian Embassy wouldn't have been able to inform the family of their need to initiate the matter of the arrest warrant"...

 

This would not be the only roadblock that I have seen pertaining to this case. This is the very reason the PNP was giving me information and documents to post on the forums was I am not bound by those agreements. The PNP broke no rules by giving the information and no rules prevented me from posting the information. This is what led to friends and family to find information that would have been unobtainable otherwise. Eventually news reporters found the information as well.

 

She is a smart cleaver lady.

[Thomas]

 

 

1. The family of Harry Doyle in Canada must first coordinate with the Philippine Embassy in Canada, writing a letter requesting the copy of the warrant of arrest of Jane “Undang” Doyle.

What idiots have decided such rules?  :1 (103):  So if the murdered has no family, then the murderer will not be wanted abroad by Interpol???!!!...

 

I was just talking to Laverne Stewart the reporter from the N.B. Daily Gleaner who's articles I ofter post. She just gave me a possible reason why it has to be done this way. She said "I am guessing it's because of the federal privacy law. Because Jane didn't give permission for information to be released the government can't tell anyone else about the case including their need to ask for the warrant to be sent to proper channels." She said it is only her opinion but it makes sense as Jane Doyle has never signed an information release either here or in Canada. Lavern also added. "the feds and province are very, very careful about not sharing information because of the law. If it is broken there could be room for law suits. If Jane didn't sign a document saying information about the case could be released then the Canadian Embassy wouldn't have been able to inform the family of their need to initiate the matter of the arrest warrant"...

 

This would not be the only roadblock that I have seen pertaining to this case. This is the very reason the PNP was giving me information and documents to post on the forums was I am not bound by those agreements. The PNP broke no rules by giving the information and no rules prevented me from posting the information. This is what led to friends and family to find information that would have been unobtainable otherwise. Eventually news reporters found the information as well.

 

She is a smart cleaver lady.

Well. It's some sence in not allow her name to be PUBLISHED before she has been found guilty in the Philippine court,

BUT it's EXTRA CRAZY IF the law process need permision from the suspected MURDERER to share information with the police and the justice system and deport her to the Philippines...

[jamesmusslewhite]

 

 

 

1. The family of Harry Doyle in Canada must first coordinate with the Philippine Embassy in Canada, writing a letter requesting the copy of the warrant of arrest of Jane “Undang” Doyle.

What idiots have decided such rules?  :1 (103):  So if the murdered has no family, then the murderer will not be wanted abroad by Interpol???!!!...

 

I was just talking to Laverne Stewart the reporter from the N.B. Daily Gleaner who's articles I ofter post. She just gave me a possible reason why it has to be done this way. She said "I am guessing it's because of the federal privacy law. Because Jane didn't give permission for information to be released the government can't tell anyone else about the case including their need to ask for the warrant to be sent to proper channels." She said it is only her opinion but it makes sense as Jane Doyle has never signed an information release either here or in Canada. Lavern also added. "the feds and province are very, very careful about not sharing information because of the law. If it is broken there could be room for law suits. If Jane didn't sign a document saying information about the case could be released then the Canadian Embassy wouldn't have been able to inform the family of their need to initiate the matter of the arrest warrant"...

 

This would not be the only roadblock that I have seen pertaining to this case. This is the very reason the PNP was giving me information and documents to post on the forums was I am not bound by those agreements. The PNP broke no rules by giving the information and no rules prevented me from posting the information. This is what led to friends and family to find information that would have been unobtainable otherwise. Eventually news reporters found the information as well.

 

She is a smart cleaver lady.

Well. It's some sence in not allow her name to be PUBLISHED before she has been found guilty in the Philippine court,

BUT it's EXTRA CRAZY IF the law process need permision from the suspected MURDERER to share information with the police and the justice system and deport her to the Philippines...

 

and that is the proverbial Catch-22... :no:

[HarryBeatMeAtTennis]

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