jamesmusslewhite Posted November 24, 2013 Author Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) This is something that has come to my attention as we have merely been focusing on the Extradition treaties but there of also what are called (MLAT) "Mutual Lateral Assistance Treaty" country. As I understand the Philippines only has a (MLAT) with eight countries - Australia, China, Hong Kong, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom and the USA. I am researching it now but I do not see a (MLAT) with Canada? http://www.lawphil.net/international/treaties/mutleg.html Edited November 24, 2013 by jamesmusslewhite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 James, You are right, Harry's family didn't pay anyone and that is exactly my point. If they paid the right people then Jane would not have been allowed to leave the Philippines. When you don't pay, things may still get done but it will take a lot longer. Instead of days and weeks it will be months and years to get any results. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Instead of days and weeks it will be months and years to get any results. Has anyone, given a thought, to the Statute of Limitations? If of course, there is one here. Is someone trying to delay proceedings along this line ??? :tiphat: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmusslewhite Posted November 25, 2013 Author Posted November 25, 2013 James, You are right, Harry's family didn't pay anyone and that is exactly my point. If they paid the right people then Jane would not have been allowed to leave the Philippines. When you don't pay, things may still get done but it will take a lot longer. Instead of days and weeks it will be months and years to get any results. It may sound good but not practical as to the timelines and facts of the case. Harry was killed on Sunday, by next Sunday he was in Cebu, cremated and in an urn. And on Monday she was trying to book the flights to Canada. In twelve days after the murder she had boarded a plane and carried the urn to the family. The PNP investigators were still trying to sort out the witness statements and gathering facts and with no information release being signed either here or there there was no way the family could not to payoff anyone. The case took 6 months to get to the point to present it City prosecutors office to see if they felt the case was strong enough to try to secure an arrest warrant. The only real information the family could get was through the threads I started on the forums, and that was many weeks after Jane was already in Canada. Then the Doyle family took time just to even accept the possibility that Jane could have actually had Harry murdered. There is no magic crystal ball. It took time. The fact Jane has been there in Canada, in the very town Harry was raised, and could not be questioned by either the Philippine or Canadian authorities did not help either. No DNA has yet been allowed on the infant son born in Canada, even when the PNP believes the child is fathered by Jerome (Harry's bodyguard/driver) to help establish motive. It is just what it is, a rather bazaar case. It has been like a strange movie script; but it still has progressed further than most murder cases involving an expat ever get. Soon we get to see what Canada does next? Should be interesting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmusslewhite Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 I was just informed this morning that the Canadian family has made the required request to the Philippine Embassy in Canada. So the ball is again on the roll. How long this take is beyond me or anyone I have discussed this with. There has only been two previous cases of extradition of a Filipino citizen from Canada and neither was successful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 There has only been two previous cases of extradition of a Filipino citizen from Canada and neither was successful. Do you have any information on this, Why were they unsuccessful? It Could answer a few questions. What if anything, is Interpol saying. They seem to be very quiet about all this James. :tiphat: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmusslewhite Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 There has only been two previous cases of extradition of a Filipino citizen from Canada and neither was successful. Do you have any information on this, Why were they unsuccessful? It Could answer a few questions. What if anything, is Interpol saying. They seem to be very quiet about all this James. :tiphat: There is an extradition treaty and the Philippines has met all the criteria yet there has only been two cases where the Philippines has tried to extradite someone from Canada and both were unsuccessful. The two links are retrospects of some of the complications encountered with extraditions between the Philippines and Canada http://www.pilipino-...rospective.html http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ubles-1.1174048 and this link it to the actual Nov. 7th 1989 Extradition Treaty No. 34125 http://www.docstoc.c...INES-and-CANADA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 There is an extradition treaty and the Philippines has met all the criteria yet there has only been two cases where the Philippines has tried to extradite someone from Canada and both were unsuccessful. The two links are retrospects of some of the complications encountered with extraditions between the Philippines and Canada http://www.pilipino-...rospective.html (From the treaty) 4, When final judgment has been passed in the requested state What idiot have made that rule to be included?! That mean if the criminal manage to keep away until a case has been to court then they can't be extradited!!! :bash: :1 (103): (as it can be in the Jane Doyle case if the court case against the group will be hold without her there of some reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmusslewhite Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 There is an extradition treaty and the Philippines has met all the criteria yet there has only been two cases where the Philippines has tried to extradite someone from Canada and both were unsuccessful. The two links are retrospects of some of the complications encountered with extraditions between the Philippines and Canada http://www.pilipino-...rospective.html (From the treaty) 4, When final judgment has been passed in the requested state What idiot have made that rule to be included?! That mean if the criminal manage to keep away until a case has been to court then they can't be extradited!!! :bash: :1 (103): (as it can be in the Jane Doyle case if the court case against the group will be hold without her there of some reason) In one simple word...................... LAWYERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 A very good point Thomas, also why would an eye witness and suspect be allowed to leave the country just a few days after the murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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