Call me bubba Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 here is the latest on the "cyber-law" now it appears that it could not be enforced any way as it is "defective".. :89: now here is the story // With all the oral arguments on the suits challenging theconstitutionality of the fledgling Cybercrime Prevention Act (Rep. ActNo. 10175) completed before the Supreme Court (SC) yesterday, thecounsels representing the State had to concede that portions of thedraconian law should be struck out.The government yesterday admittedbefore the SC that liking, sharing libelous Facebook and twitter postscan make one person criminally liable, which made a Supreme CourtJustice to say that it creates a chilling effect.Solicitor GeneralFrancis Jardeleza who represented the government said that under thesaid law clicking “like,” “share” or “retweet” on posts on socialnetworking sites Facebook and Twitter can make one liable.“A ‘like’is an approval of opinion. The approval of the opinion ‘Jones is a liar’can cause as much damage as actually saying ‘Jones is a liar,”Jardeleza told SC magistrates in oral argument as he defended thelegality of the cybercrime law.“If ‘liking’ a post consideredlibelous is also libelous, then this law is bad. It can have chillingeffect for those of us who like opinions which we didn’t author in thefirst place,” stressed Associate Justice Roberto Abad.Jardeleza also said that R.A. 10175 treats approval of a post punishable as cyber libel as a similar crime:“Defamation is defamation. Things (in the Internet) can go viral. What about reputation?” (here is the reason )Jardelezaconceded that Section 19 of the law, which authorizes the Department ofjustice to blocked or restrict access to computer data without a courtwarrant, is unconstitutional.“We humbly submit that Section 19 bestruck down as it impermissibly intrudes into free speech. We toobelieve in freedom of speech and expression,” he stressed. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,................................................................Jardelezaalso admitted in open court that collection of traffic data underRepublic Act 10175 or the Cybercrime Prevention Act would includecollection of electronic banking transactions.“Would the collectionof traffic data also include electronic banking transactions,” SupremeCourt Associate Justice Mariano Del Castillo asked Jardeleza, to whichthe Solicitor-General replied in the positive.“Won’t this be a violation of the Bank Secrecy Law?”, asked Del Castillo.The government lawyer said no because the provision is about “hot pursuit of a hacker.”DelCastillo pointed out that Congress failed to define what is trafficdata that can be collected without intervention from the courts. Jardeleza clamed he was clueless on that, even when he was arguing for its inclusion.UnderSection 12, traffic data “refers only to the communication’s origin,destination, route, time, date, size, duration or type of underlyingservice but not content nor identities.”The same provision allows law enforcement authorities to collect these traffic data without need of court authorization.The Justice said that the executive department’s “power to collect traffic data is subject to abuse.Jardelezaalso admitted that Section 12 of the law is also “hardlyconstitutional” as he called as “one of the misgivings” the clause on“due cause” – a criminal element not clarified in this provision thatgives government power to collect real-time traffic data.“Trafficdata can be acquired if there is due cause, which is function of theexecutive (branch). Rights will be better protected with judicialintervention,” he conceded.Senior Justices Antonio Carpio said alibel provision in Sec. 354 of Revised Penal Code from where onlinelibel was taken has been declared unconstitutional by previous SCrulings.“Article 354 on libel cannot stand scrutiny of constitutionality,” he told Jardeleza.AssociateJustice Bienvenido Reyes grilled the Solicitor general on the possiblerepercussion of his stand to the fight against child pornography, whichneeds immediate action from law enforcers.Associate Justice MarvicLeonen, the most junior of the justices, shared this opinion. He askedJardeleza: “Jurisprudence on actual malice has amended the RevisedPenal Code. Why is it in the cybercrime law, libel repeats Article 355and not the jurisprudence? The libel of 1932 is not the libel we knowtoday.”Leonen asked if the SC can declare the online libel provisionunconstitutional also just like the libel provision in RPC. Jardelezasaid it would be “up to the court.”While Jardeleza admitted thereare questionable provisions in R.A. 10175, the government is hopeful thehigh court would not declare the entire law unconstitutional.So he demonstrated the necessity for a law against cybercriminals he personified as “Mr. Hacker.”“Internetgave criminals platform to commit crimes. The cybercrime law is thestate’s response to scourge… Cybercrime law gives government new toolsto run after anonymous cybercriminals who do not carry guns but asdeadly,” he argued.He assured that the law provides three layers ofprotection against cybercriminals like hackers, two of which involvejudicial intervention.Jardeleza also allayed fears that R.A. 10175would lead to intrusion of privacy of citizens. He assured it “does notauthorize ‘Big Brother surveillance.” http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/item/9835-solgen-admits-cyber-law-defective-unconstitutional humm?? a law was made.w/some of the "brightest minds" in the country. and the law to begin with is already "defective" and others didnt really know what the "law" was as they didnt read it .yet voted for passage.. :89: :89: . being a genius its still more fun in the philppines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Just wondering if there's been much feedback there in Cebu regarding the Philippines new Cybercrime Law ? Folks in our neck of the woods , Northern Mindanao - Cagayan de Oro , are perhaps over reacting but mainly Facebookers . :-) Would seem to be a step backward for the Philippines in terms of the international community but given the fact that a significent number of folks that passed the bill apparently didn't bother to read it guess it's not suprising :-) http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=853745 Above link provides one view but there are many.. I can't see that article. Perhaps it's cencored... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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