Jack Peterson Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 I was most surprised yesterday, as I walked the Dog. During the last 3 months or so (since we started the build.) I have got used, to seeing most, of my local neighbours up and down the road, many, duly congregating around the two stores we have in the vicinity, like any shop, a point for wagging tongues :mocking: . The kids are kids, some cheeky others comical :) ( give me money, is the way of saying hello ) Anyway, Yesterday, I witnessed something I have never seen herebefore, A mother, take a piece of tree branch and proceed to lay into a boy of about 10 or 11, for what reason, I know not but I could sense, back chat I grew up in the days where the Slipper or cane at school, was it seems, a teachers reward of a bad day, as he administered the punishment. A clip round the ear, from the local bobby (Policeman) was preferable, to being taken home by him or Dad fetching me home from the police station. time goes bye and we wonder, what is happening to our Youth of today Now of course Corporal Punishment is a thing of the past, illegal and considered, abuse and /or assault. Has any one else ever come across this ? I have always said a good clip around the ear from parents and family, could help sort out, our local Kids, many, without a little discipline, something surely Lacking, that could, be put right. in fact, How about a topic, on the Pros and Cons. of Corporal Punishment and whether it would serve any purpose. :unsure: :tiphat: NO! I am No sadist, I just wondered what others thought. :unsure: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted December 30, 2012 Forum Support Posted December 30, 2012 The Filipino way is the withholding of love or family-clan membership a fate wost than death. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 The Filipino way is the withholding of love or family-clan membership a fate wost than death. :unsure: Ah OK, well, I guess this mother, has been watching to much TV maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Now of course Corporal Punishment is a thing of the past, illegal and considered, abuse and /or assault. I think this could be an interesting conversation but when you put it that way, I wonder if its one the forum owner wants to have. But lets give it a go. I would say that if parents used the common sense God gave them then physically punishing a child is not necessarily abuse or assault. I say common sense because you have to know your child. One child will accept that he is being disciplined and would rather have a swat on the butt than an hour long lecture. Another child may think you just don't love her any more because you hit her. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 I think this could be an interesting conversation but when you put it that way, I wonder if its one the forum owner wants to have. But lets give it a go. I take your point entirely Dave. Normally I would not venture on a topic like this. Controversial, to say the least. (I hope any replies will reflect these thoughts) As I said, I was most, surprised, to see it happen, that just, well, made me think a little. :tiphat: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jake Posted December 30, 2012 Popular Post Posted December 30, 2012 I think this could be an interesting conversation but when you put it that way, I wonder if its one the forum owner wants to have. But lets give it a go. I take your point entirely Dave. Normally I would not venture on a topic like this. Controversial, to say the least. (I hope any replies will reflect these thoughts) As I said, I was most, surprised, to see it happen, that just, well, made me think a little. :tiphat: Several years ago, I was down to my last ounce of patience with my oldest son, at the time he was 16. After a couple warnings about stealing the family car for a joy ride with his friends, I applied old school discipline by breaking out the belt (without buckle) and swung it hard across his butt. The last stroke broke his skin and my wife went berserk against me. I then showed her the foot mud stains on top of the hood, trunk and top of the car. Part of the hood was caved in. It did not pacify her in my justification of punishing our son like that. She threaten to call the police but I was already dialing 911 to turn myself in. She then changed her mind -- perhaps me being in jail would seriously jeopardize the family, the marriage and my job. Ever since that time, I forcefully took a back seat as a father running family matters. My son is now 22 years old, in and out of jail/prison for grand theft auto and drug abuse (heroin). Although his younger siblings learned from my son's mistakes, I waited patiently and quietly apply measured but stern warnings to make sure my youngest daughter and son would not go down that road. All is well now with my son who is still on probation for another year or so. After all this time, my wife finally conceded that spoiling a young teenager like that did not work. Perhaps it's not a difference in culture.....perhaps it's that special relationship between a mother and her grown up babies. What do I know? I'm a white and black type of guy -- I have no time or patience for emotional decisions. I guess everyone of us has been giving a will to choose. As a parent, one needs to instill self discipline, humbleness and adult responsibilities. You know....an ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure, where it's already too late. There is no such thing as a perfect parent. There are no books, seminars and therapy sessions on how to become one either. And therefore, many of life's choices are made in haste, without thinking of accountability or remorse. I'm old school and proud of it -- Jake 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave Hounddriver Posted December 30, 2012 Popular Post Posted December 30, 2012 There is one problem facing us retirees that Jake did not face. When my boy is 16 I'm going to be 73 and it is likely I'll get my butt kicked if I try to apply corporal punishment at that point. However, it is my belief that it does more good in their formative years like 3 to 9. If they have not learned to respect their parents rules by then it may be a lost cause. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 However, it is my belief that it does more good in their formative years like 3 to 9. If they have not learned to respect their parents rules by then it may be a lost cause. Dave, if I could find the 10 like button, you would have all 10 :) :tiphat: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 There is no such thing as a perfect parent. There are no books, seminars and therapy sessions on how to become one either. And therefore, many of life's choices are made in haste, without thinking of accountability or remorse. Spoken Like a true Father ( believe it or not Jake.) we all of us I am sure, had or will have at some stage, the thoughts portrayed here. It is not easy to be a parent, and the kids don't help any. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewool Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 when we was younger we had the slipper and the cane did it stop us being unruly, not at all, at home we had to go and get our own piece of privet hedge so my dad could whip our butt with it, if it was to small he would go and get a piece, then he just put it against the fireplace ready to use it, he never did but it was a warning , being one of 8 sons you can imagine our household, we was always cheeky never ever to our elders because they would just clip you round your ear hole, and wow be tide if they ever told your dad,did it ever stop us not at all, but i am afraid todays youth are a totally different ball game, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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