Forum Support Old55 Posted March 6, 2013 Forum Support Posted March 6, 2013 Here we go again. :bash: I was not at the fight and did not view the "rich foreigner" ring announcer behavior. The Freeman Newspaper opinion editor seems to have an agenda. http://www.philstar.com/freeman-opinion/2013/03/07/916823/colonial-mentality 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 There are a number of YouTube clips of this guy doing boxing introductions if anyone wants to look. I wouldn't say he tries to "ape" Michael Buffer, he has apparently adopted some of the vocal mannerisms of Mr Buffer, as have almost all ring announcers at big boxing events ("Let's get ready to rumble"). But Mr Lerner does more then ring introductions, he has been the correspondent for The Ring magazine in Asia, the "Bible of Boxing" for the past 15 years, so he has credibility as a journalist and writer who has covered the sport for many years. He was the first western writer to cover the rise of Pacquiao. I cannot understand what his announcing of the main event of a boxing match has to do with "Colonial mentality", those decisions are made by the fight promoter. He refers to Mr Lerner as "the Caucasian". Besides being poorly written, this column is racist and hateful; the writer has a real problem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Gotta agree. But it's typical. It's the "new world/progressive" manner to bash male "Caucasians". We're evil, don't you know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Wow. Looks like he is mad because those AS&^%(&% at the boxing management office failed to (yet again) ask this man his opinion on what to do about the announcer staffing position! You see, all of this drama and crap COULD have been avoided IF ONLY those in management at the boxing comission (?) had of simply called that writer up and he would have told them what to do... like an overseer.... after all, they are his Subjects... right? it is amazing that Manny has made a single centavio without following this guys advice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibemarshall Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Being in the newspaper business, I have to agree - poorly written & and poorly copy edited. Makes me wonder if the columnist is paid by the word... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleultras Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Just someone trying to get popular by being controversial, his claims and views are all wrong and without any checking into the background of Mr Lerner, which if he had, he wouldve quickly found out the simple details Mike posted. Foolish is the best word for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me bubba Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Here we go again. :bash: I was not at the fight and did not view the "rich foreigner" ring announcer behavior. The Freeman Newspaper opinion editor seems to have an agenda. http://www.philstar.com/freeman-opinion/2013/03/07/916823/colonial-mentality thank you OLD55 for the story, here is the link as some of our connections are well?? like-----. In the early days of world politics, colonization was the common method of territorial expansion. Renowned seafarers from perceived major powers like England, France, Portugal and Spain, crossed the seas in search of lands and peoples either to trade with or colonize and rule. An example was Portuguese Hernando de Magallanes, Ferdinand Magellan, in our history books. When Magellan searched for another way to the Mallacas islands, he served in the name of the King of Spain. Along his then uncharted route, he came to our shores and planted his sword here to signal the Spanish domination of our land. Ironically, most colonizers flaunted higher form of culture to garb their selfish intentions. Instead of improving the lot of the people in their discovered lands, they acted, as rulers, like demi gods and treated the people they dominated, their subjects, if not slaves. Probably, Magellan, having found no record of the kind of culture we had when he caused the first mass to be held in Limasawa Island, on the Easter Sunday of March 31, 1521, thought he was our God-given master. The term colonial mentality must have arisen from such a situation. On one hand, the conquerors imagined that their privileged position of power and culture was vastly superior to those they enslaved. Their mind frame was that they had the birthright to dominate. On the other hand, those subjugated also bowed their heads in acceptance of their inferiority to the culture or doctrines of the colonizers. Colonial mentality. There is no other way to explain the presence of a certain Ted Lerner, an American, I believe, in the boxing promotion last Saturday at the Waterfront. To be sure, it was not the first time that he acted as the privileged announcer of the event. Mr. Lerner has served as the Michael Buffer (by trying to ape him) in many major boxing promotions in our city. On his part, this Caucasian must have entertained the thought that his fair skin, in substituting his absent talent, makes him better than say Mr. Rico Navarro or Mr. John Magat. ndeed, he must have mistaken his race as superior to the brown pigmentation of Messrs. Navarro and Magat's because atop the ring, he struts like a peacock! And he squeaks like one. Well, Mr. Lerner is wrong. He is not one bit better than the Filipino announcers whose important task he takes away from. His talent, if at all, is as ordinary as that of the barkers in our midst called “dispatchers” - you know, those men shouting for passengers to board jeeps - “Hoy, Ramos Carbon”. In fact, I have heard few dispatchers with better voices than Mr. Lerner's. Yes, his twang is unmistakably American, but that is all there is to it. I do not know why Mr. Lerner was so privileged as to be engaged as the announcer of the main event and therefore, the most important part of the night's boxing presentation. Is he, in the first place, here in the Philippines as a professional ring announcer? And as such he pays the correct amount of tax? Does he have the kind of training and background that place him notches higher than our own? In that Saturday card, the Filipino announcers were relegated to the preliminaries, the crumb, so to speak. By taking away from Mr. Navarro and Mr. Magat the privilege of showcasing the Filipino talent in introducing world-class boxing to world-wide audiences, Mr. Lerner, not only deprived the Filipino ring announcers of the professional fee they were supposed to get, he, more importantly, allowed the international audiences to think that we are incapable of competently doing the job. As a Filipino, I felt so insulted by the situation that I listened carefully to the American each time he opened his mouth. It was my intention to discern if he possessed a language so polished as to justify his taking over a privileged function. Alas, he failed in that regard that I now ask our promoters not to give him again that job the next time there is a boxing promotion. here is the mans email address if you care to SHARE some views w/him Email: aa.piramide@gmail.com www.slightlyofftangent.blogspot.com 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Forum Support Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Not exactly what we evil foreigners want to see in a mainstream major Filipino newspaper. I wonder what the guy really thinks! I also wonder how many average Filipinos nodded their heads while reading it. I'm curious....... what do you guys living in Philippines think, is this guy some loser hack? So just how common is this foolish thinking in Philippines today? Edited March 7, 2013 by Old55 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me bubba Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Not exactly what we evil foreigners want to see in a mainstream major Filipino newspaper. I wonder what the guy really thinks! I also wonder how many average Filipinos nodded their heads while reading it. yes it is scary at least to me of how many will believe what he says, HOWEVER we/I/you/US can change this "perception" by being normal .not causing undue attention to ourselves, show a "positive" attitude when among the locals.and trying to make a good influence towards those we meet in day to day situations 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 So just how common is this foolish thinking in Philippines today? I don't know about foolish but I believe we are not nearly as loved as some think. I had already noted Mr Piramide's email address and I will write him and share my thoughts on his column. Here's another article, this one from the Cebu Sun Star's Sunday Opinion page from January: "KA DAGHAN na gyud og foreigners sa Sugbo!” (So many foreigners in Cebu!) is a common lament among Cebuanos as Cebu’s population of Americans, Europeans and other Asians rise with each passing year. One sees them in the usual haunts: malls, coffee shops, restaurants and bars. They come in all categories: tourists, students, investors, balikbayans with foreign spouses, retirees squiring around young Filipinas, and fugitives from the law of their own countries, including pedophiles, gangsters and swindlers. They range from philanthropists to “undesirable aliens” like the Taiwanese drug dealer now dancing with the CPDRC jail inmates and the cold-blooded murderer of six-year-old Ella Joy Pique." That last bit caught my eye, she has apparently decided who the murderer is and has no problem using her position as a journalist to broadcast it to thousands of readers, even though the case has not yet been adjudicated. I wrote the newspaper about it; they didn't publish the email but I hope at least the author, Ms Atienza, read it. http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/opinion/2013/01/27/atienza-clash-cultures-265134 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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