Dougbert Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Wow. Spratly's next? http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/23/21589904-deeply-concerned-kerry-criticizes-new-air-defense-zone-in-china?lite http://eng.mod.gov.cn/Press/2013-11/23/content_4476180.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougbert Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 And the response... http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21627923-us-bombers-fly-over-disputed-island-chain-without-informing-china?chromedomain=worldnews 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted November 26, 2013 Forum Support Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) I miss Ron. Edited November 26, 2013 by Old55 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Carl Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 And the sabre rattling begins! Now all that China has to figure out is how to get 2 and a half million soldiers across the oceans in their one aircraft carrier. Papa Carl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJReyes Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Now all that China has to figure out is how to get 2 and a half million soldiers across the oceans in their one aircraft carrier. The aircraft carrier is a Soviet era ship purchased from one of the Eastern Bloc nations. It then underwent extensive renovation. Their aircraft carrier has limited military value. The purpose is propaganda. China can claim they are now a world power equal to the United States. The Peoples Liberation Army is massive, but it is defensive. Just look at the quality of their armament. They have no offensive capability. Purpose is saber rattling. I am glad the United States is ignoring China's claims over international waters. The flight of the two B-52 bombers is one way to call their bluff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougbert Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 China moves "museum ship" to disputed area... http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/27/21641914-china-deploys-only-aircraft-carrier-after-us-sends-b-52s-over-disputed-islands?lite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted November 27, 2013 Forum Support Posted November 27, 2013 China is unable to sustain combat flight operations during hours of darkness. PLA has one mission statement, keeping the citizens of China in line. The PLA has very little offensive capability. The Chinese navy could easily invade and hold the Spratly's as Philippines has not the ability or will to provide humanitarian aid by sea or air within its own boarders after the latest storm. China can cause serious mischief by proxy at any time in Korea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 The Peoples Liberation Army is massive, but it is defensive. Just look at the quality of their armament. They have no offensive capability. Purpose is saber rattling.Remember the recent PLA Navy-escorted fishing trip from Hainan? That was highly successful in every sense for China. The mere presence of well-armed naval vessels was enough to scare-off the Philippine navy and thus China gained control of the Scarborough Shoals. And PLAN's continuing presence amongst the Spratleys has prevented the Philippine Navy from resupplying the very few PAF personnel occupying a grounded, rusting vessel. And now China has sent its aircaft carrier escorted by two guided-missile destroyers, two guided-missile cruisers, a submarine and support/supply ships into the area which has been conveniently vacated by the US' George Washington battle group. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJReyes Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 It's one thing to saber rattle in front of the Philippine military. The situation is different with the United States, provided there is the political will to call China's bluff. Their single aircraft carrier is on the move, but it carries no aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 I have always been curious about military tactics for a given scenario. For many centuries, the Chinese was a dominate force to be reckon with inland. Now, the Chinese is trying to catch up with the major powers and their quest to become another blue water navy. They have a lone way to go, especially amphibious assaults. Oh yeah, you can bet those two B-52's had special EW (electronic warfare) systems that would track, identify all the radar emitters from coastal China. But China was smart. They chose to remain silent, not to give away their RF characteristics and their radar locations, especially their mobile ones. On the other hand, the USAF did not go active either and probably had a commercial airline package to fake their real identity. The name of the game is deception. With their only ally North Korea and the unpredictable nature of that psycho dear leader, things could go extremely confusing in the fogs of war. I think we should tone down our posturing in that area. Otherwise, there will be no Made in China products for this Christmas at the local WalFart stores. Just sayin' -- Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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