JJReyes Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Sister in Law is working security on cruise ships. The has worked for Disney and a few other companies,they paid less than $2,000 USD and with a 6 month contract. I remember her mentioning the employment agency taking a fairly good sized piece of their salary. Unfortunately, this is true. In addition to the fees they receive from the contracting employers, the employment agency demand money from OFWs. The $2,500 figure came from waiters and cabin crew whom I engaged in conversation. They are not permitted to talk about salaries, contract terms and living conditions, but our conversations are in Filipino. Edited January 4, 2014 by JJReyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 All three professions require one year apprenticeship or free labor as part of the training program. This is not permitted in many countries. Most corporations pay or give some sort of stipend to their summer interns. In the Philippines they were charging for apprenticeship. Is it like this for any more occupations in RP?Are both private and official jobs approved as practice? Sister in Law is working security on cruise ships. The has worked for Disney and a few other companies,they paid less than $2,000 USD and with a 6 month contract. I remember her mentioning the employment agency taking a fairly good sized piece of their salary. Unfortunately, this is true. In addition to the fees they receive from the contracting employers, the employment agency demand money from OFWs. The $2,500 figure came from waiters and cabin crew whom I engaged in conversation. They are not permitted to talk about salaries, contract terms and living conditions, but our conversations are in Filipino. Yes, and it's much. E g 100 000p for 2 year domestic work contract in HongKong. (But then the agency pay some things as e g the two way flight.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Best rum is bundy! But i have only ever seen it in Australia. So that's where member "bundy" get's his name. Thats actually correct as Bundy lived in Bundaberg where they make Bundaberg Rum :tiphat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Australians do not tip in our country Perhaps that is because people in the service industry already get a fair wage. In other countries the serving staff get bare minimum wage and depend on tips. That's what I said in the post you quoted but the Philippines is not based on the tipping system, it might be a small wage to you and I but that is the Philippines wages so its not dependent on tips at all. The idea of tipping has been brought in and now the Filipinos are using the foreigners system against him. How many of us foreigners in any country actually got more than the bare minimum wage for doing our jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 How many of us foreigners in any country actually got more than the bare minimum wage for doing our jobs? At the risk of going further off topic, all union workers. In fact the Holiday Inn restaurants in certain US states went union years ago and they were the first ones I noticed putting a 15% service charge on the bill. Service declined at the same time and I no longer tipped there. It taught me to appreciate a service industry based on tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 How many of us foreigners in any country actually got more than the bare minimum wage for doing our jobs? At the risk of going further off topic, all union workers. In fact the Holiday Inn restaurants in certain US states went union years ago and they were the first ones I noticed putting a 15% service charge on the bill. Service declined at the same time and I no longer tipped there. It taught me to appreciate a service industry based on tips. This is my point Dave, the Philippines is not the US. The Philippines have a certain amount per day for each job. Now in the province its slightly lower and a restaurant in the province might see two foreigners a year depending where it is. If those two tipped as they do in the US then it would be Christmas for those waiters as no one else tipped because they are Filipino which all roughly have the same wage whether they are patrons or the workers. The service industry in the Philippines has a set amount, why would they expect more? Service could be filling your motorbike with gas/petrol from a coke bottle, do they get a big tip? Do the employers now say, you get 150 a day but can make more on tips? I dont mean to sound argumentative about this but I could never understand, an old Buddy of mine from the US, nice guy until he became a fruitcake would sit at the table after a meal at a restaurant in Cebu and work out the tip based on US system even though he has visited the Philippines for 20 years and still has not got it, the Philippines is not the US so why is he helping making it that way and now instead of a cheap meal compared to what one may pay at home the cost of dining out has gone up except for the Filipinos on the table next to us. Yes I know Im off topic. :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tukaram (Tim) Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Actually tipping is not an issue. The service is so bad everywhere in the PI's even if I were inclined to tip - they would not earn one! :tiphat: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJReyes Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 You order a rum & coke, why should you have to automatically tip or pay an additional service charge? My son was telling me that several high-end restaurants in New York now have an absolutely no tipping policy. They pay the staff a decent wage to provide excellent service. You don't tip at Jollibee or McDonald. I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAway Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 A few days ago we were in San Jose, Dinagat Island. We had lunch at a little eatery in town. The ladies running the place were taking care of us very well. Asking if it was ok, giving us tissues and such. We left P15 on the table and the girl ran after us saying we forgot our change! Whole meal with drinks was P100. Since starting this topic I have been paying attention to how attentive staff has been when a service charge was included vs. it not being included. Pretty much a hit and miss on both. Some terrible and some excellent weather service charge included or not. At the Draft Gastropub in Global CIty we asked a waitress about the service charge. They said it was split between all the staff. So I see it as a way for management to offset their labor costs by simply passing it off to the customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) We left P15 on the table and the girl ran after us saying we forgot our change! I used to do that when I worked in Canada. To my way of thinking, if 15 cents was all the guy could leave then he needed it more than me (which I usually told him but wait staff are more polite here.) Edit: I am sure 15 pesos would have been a good tip in that situation, my post is just teasing. Should have but the smiley . . . :devil: Edited January 8, 2014 by Dave Hounddriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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