Jack Peterson Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 full-time expats are extremely rare. My friend, you need to get out more and explore, here in Dumaguete, a Small city of just over 120,000 Population, the latest BOI information is that we are 2,800 approx, long term Expats. (full Time, with Marriages/ Relationships. That is to me, a staggering, nigh on 2.3% of the Population. Cebu, I would imagine, can better that. :tiphat: JP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OnMyWay Posted August 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) 15 years ago I worked with a man named Jack who was 53. Jack was a happy man, his youngest daughter was getting married and the next youngest had graduated college the year before. Jack was happy for months telling everyone his plans. Then Jack came into work and announced he was going to be a daddy again. Nobody really knew what to say. I finally came out with it and asked Jack if he had forgotten where babies come from? The baby is a precious little girl and I am sure she will give Jack equal measures of joy and days when he would like to pull his hair out. Things I look forward to myself. I'm 48, never married and never had children, no firm prospect for a wife in sight. If I have a child, all I can do is give them my best. I would like to be there for all their important days but that may not be possible. Is it fair? I'd say no. But life is not fair. Age and infirmity are not fair. You just have to do the best you know how. Just catching up today on this really long but interesting thread! I'm 57 and we have a baby, so when she is 18 I will be 75. Honestly I did not plan to have a baby at this age but Katy has been a blessing to us all. Now I can't imagine NOT having her. Everyone has different situations but it some ways it is very positive for the child to have an older daddy, if he is retired and has the financial means. In any case, parenting will be what you make of it. Older or younger, you and the kids get back what YOU put into it. I'm always telling Abby what it would be like if we were in the U.S. and had a baby (at any age). Most likely, we would both have to be working. The mother would take a small amount of time off to have the baby, then the baby would be in daycare, with who knows what influencing her upbringing. Both parents working makes spending time with the kids much harder. Both parents come home dead tired. We could never afford a nanny. We don't have one now anyway. Over here, neither of us works a regular job and there are no plans to. So we can both be 100% devoted to the kids. Well, actually Abby is 120% devoted to them and I am 80%, so it works out to 100% :hystery: My goals are to get physically and financially as healthy as possible to that I can be there for them when I am older! Back to age difference, here in Subic, you see a lot of very old guys with wives much younger, but when you are 80 and she is 50, 30 years is not the same! A lot of these guys probably are ex-military and met their "young" wives many years ago. Edited August 28, 2014 by OnMyWay 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Lost, may I ask what your background is with the Philippines? Do you live and work here? You seem to have spoken with many girlfriends and wives of older expats, which seems unusual for someone in their 20's. As far as full-time expats, I am one and my neighborhood is full if them. "20-something, hell even 30 something, full-time expats are extremely rare." By this I mean full time expats in their 20's and 30's are extremely rare, reading it back I realize I worded that like a dip sh&t. Why would it be unusual, most older expats have girlfriends my age. It seems perfectly natural for them to seek a guys my age when their boyfriend is away, if they are unsatisfied that is. I would never sleep with a married woman, but there are lots of young pogi white guys here who do. They make these girls their sugar mamas. I suspect many of you didn't realize there are white boys out here doing this for a living. As for me, yes I live here full time, I do not work here. I built a couple businesses in the states I check in on from time to time. Edited August 28, 2014 by MikeB Removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 full-time expats are extremely rare. My friend, you need to get out more and explore, here in Dumaguete, a Small city of just over 120,000 Population, the latest BOI information is that we are 2,800 approx, long term Expats. (full Time, with Marriages/ Relationships. That is to me, a staggering, nigh on 2.3% of the Population. Cebu, I would imagine, can better that. :tiphat: JP Sorry I worded that poorly, I meant expats my age are rare (20's and 30's). There are obviously many thousands of expats here in their retirement years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 Back to age difference, here in Subic, you see a lot of very old guys with wives much younger, but when you are 80 and she is 50, 30 years is not the same! A lot of these guys probably are ex-military and met their "young" wives many years ago. Just goes to show us that these types of relationships often last a long, long time. What gets me heated is that the politically correct crowd in North America would never stoop to showing prejudice against a marriage of different races, or sexual preference, or religious preference, or disabled people, or just about anything else that is none of their business . . But age gap prejudice is alive and well among people who cannot do it themselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hey Steve Posted August 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Back to age difference, here in Subic, you see a lot of very old guys with wives much younger, but when you are 80 and she is 50, 30 years is not the same! A lot of these guys probably are ex-military and met their "young" wives many years ago. Just goes to show us that these types of relationships often last a long, long time. What gets me heated is that the politically correct crowd in North America would never stoop to showing prejudice against a marriage of different races, or sexual preference, or religious preference, or disabled people, or just about anything else that is none of their business . . But age gap prejudice is alive and well among people who cannot do it themselves. I believe they are singled out because there is an assumption that love is not the over riding motivating factor as to why the couple is together and so the test of time will prove these (mostly ignorant type people) wrong. Someone here in the US asked me once if I had to wipe the wood shavings off her when I busted open the wooden crate upon delivery of my wife. Needless to say, it's going to be a relief for this and many other reasons why we're moving to the Phl in due time. Edited August 28, 2014 by Hey Steve 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyWay Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Lost, may I ask what your background is with the Philippines? Do you live and work here? You seem to have spoken with many girlfriends and wives of older expats, which seems unusual for someone in their 20's. As far as full-time expats, I am one and my neighborhood is full if them. "20-something, hell even 30 something, full-time expats are extremely rare." By this I mean full time expats in their 20's and 30's are extremely rare, reading it back I realize I worded that like a dip sh&t. Why would it be unusual, most older expats have girlfriends my age. It seems perfectly natural for them to seek a guys my age when their boyfriend is away, if they are unsatisfied that is. I would never sleep with a married woman, but there are lots of young pogi white guys here who do. They make these girls their sugar mamas. I suspect many of you didn't realize there are white boys out here doing this for a living. As for me, yes I live here full time, I do not work here. I built a couple businesses in the states I check in on from time to time. Ok, the age clarification on the full time expats makes it different and then I would agree. One reason I asked about what you do is that usually a younger person who is working overseas gets the opportunity to work and live overseas through an employer. The girlfriends / wives of guys I know (admittedly a small sample from a small area, not Manila) are not out hunting when the guys are away. However, most couples I know of (including several on the forum here) are rarely separated from each other and do everything together. There are not a lot of chances to cheat. A guy who is leaving his girlfriend / wife / family behind all the time is probably not going to have a solid relationship anyway, and I am guessing he is probably messing around a lot too. Just my opinion and I don't mean to insult those who do have to travel alone in Asia. I have an old friend who used to live / work in Philippines and now is living / working in Bangkok for over 10 years. I visited him in Bangkok many years ago and met his Filipino wife and two kids. We then proceeded out to the bars without them, and he said "Nobody is really married in Asia". He was not going out to just watch dancers. He disappeared within an hour. Not for me but there are probably a lot of expats like that in Asia. I don't know where these younger pogi white guys are but I don't spend any time in Manila bars so that is where they must be?? I've got this picture in my head of John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever and it won't go away! :hystery: Edited August 28, 2014 by OnMyWay 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 Ok, the age clarification on the full time expats makes it different and then I would agree. One reason I asked about what you do is that usually a younger person who is working overseas gets the opportunity to work and live overseas through an employer. The girlfriends / wives of guys I know (admittedly a small sample from a small area, not Manila) are not out hunting when the guys are away. However, most couples I know of (including several on the forum here) are rarely separated from each other and do everything together. There are not a lot of chances to cheat. A guy who is leaving his girlfriend / wife / family behind all the time is probably not going to have a solid relationship anyway, and I am guessing he is probably messing around a lot too. Just my opinion and I don't mean to insult those who do have to travel alone in Asia. I have an old friend who used to live / work in Philippines and now is living / working in Bangkok for over 10 years. I visited him in Bangkok many years ago and met his Filipino wife and two kids. We then proceeded out to the bars without them, and he said "Nobody is really married in Asia". He was not going out to just watch dancers. He disappeared within an hour. Not for me but there are probably a lot of expats like that in Asia. I don't know where these younger pogi white guys are but I don't spend any time in Manila bars so that is where they must be?? I've got this picture in my head of John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever and it won't go away! :hystery: Yea I've seen it mainly in Manila and AC, and I'm definitely talking more about the girls with absentee husbands like you describe. Ever notice a white guy with a small part on TV or filipino movie, or modeling? Those guys don't get paid a ton but they are drowning in tail. And the lonely suger mamas line up. Not just them either, even the younger professional types in manila clean up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jollygoodfellow Posted August 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2014 By this I mean full time expats in their 20's and 30's are extremely rare You are correct, most expats are medium rare or well done. :rolleyes: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashanti Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 By this I mean full time expats in their 20's and 30's are extremely rare You are correct, most expats are medium rare or well done. :rolleyes: Touché ……………… ha ha ………….. and like a fine wine – they are savoured and enjoyed, not rushed or gulped ………….. :mocking: :lol: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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