New Riding In Tandem Ordinance Takes Effect In Mandaluyong City, Gets Criticisms On Social Media

[earthdome]

By definition a criminal breaks the law. Why would 2 criminals who use a motorcycle to commit their crimes concern themselves with obeying a law making it illegal for them to ride together.

[Jake]

By definition a criminal breaks the law. Why would 2 criminals who use a motorcycle to commit their crimes concern themselves with obeying a law making it illegal for them to ride together.

Hey Earthdome,

 

Excellent deer in the headlights revelation!   I guess it takes a nuclear engineer to see the finer details in their legislative

skills in running this country (to the ground).  On the other side of the peso coin, is the way they enforce things around

there, especially in Manila.  

 

Unlike the political correctness we find in western civilization, where the law enforcement officers usually try their best to

apprehend, read them their civil rights and escort them to jail.....in da Philippines, it usually shoot to kill on the spot.  But

there's one caveat about that.  

 

The on duty PNP officer must be on duty, rather than in a bar or nightclub or asleep in their car.  On top of that, many

PNP officers do not receive periodic training or qualifications to maintain their accuracy in firing their issued Glock 17. 

The reason primarily is the lack of 9mm ammo that should be provided for at least semi-annual requals.  But they are

bound to hit something in crowded Manila street.....he, he.  Remember their premier swat operation in that Chinese tour

bus fiasco a few years ago?

 

And here is their army in action during one of the mini coups in Manila (Oakwood Mutiny):

Did somebody mentioned keystone cops?

By the way, the guy in the back is ordering some pizza.....he, he.

Edited September 4, 2014 by Jake
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[Malcolm Graham]

If the only males riding tandem are criminals then the public and the PNP can take action.  Senator Sotto has put a similar bill into the Senate.  Here are two articles about the ordinance

 

 

MANILA, Philippines — It may not make him a popular leader but Mandaluyong Mayor Benhur Abalos Jr. is determined to crack down on crimes committed by men on motorbikes.

 

 

Abalos, in an interview over Radyo Inquirer 990AM, insisted that Mandaluyong’s new local ordinance banning men from riding together on motorcycles would help address the high crime rates in the city.

 

 

“I am asking for the understanding of your listeners, of our citizens. I hope you understand why we are doing this,” Abalos said in a mix of English and Filipino.

 

 

“There is a similar law being implemented in Colombia. And it became very, very effective in addressing the terrible crimes committed by men riding-in-tandem in the past,” he added.

 

 

The mayor admitted he has been receiving a lot of flak from motorcycle riders but he said he is only asking for six months to implement the ordinance.

 

 

“In case it does not work, don’t worry, we will scrap it. But I think it will really succeed,” he said.

 

 

Ordinance no. 550, which took effect on September 4, prohibits motorcycle riders passing through Mandaluyong from having male passengers. However, a father-and-son pair will be let off the hook. Those allowed as motorcycle passengers are children, seven years old and up, and women.

 

 

Abalos said the new ordinance was their way of addressing crimes amid having an insufficient number of policemen for a population of almost 300,000.

 

 

He said that in addition to cases involving motorcycle-riding assassins almost doubling, the arrest of suspects was only at two percent.

 

 

“For every 100 cases, only two are arrested. So for me this is a very deadly combination. Rising criminiality every year, and, at the same time only around two percent of perpetrators are arrested. This will just encourage people to use motorcycles to commit crimes,” he explained.

 

 

Abalos said they now have policemen manning the city’s borders and that the ordinance makes it easier for policemen to apprehend individuals who may illegally be carrying guns.

 

 

 

“If the police see two men riding a motorcycle passing by, they can immediately flag them down. It would be easy,” he said.

 

 

During the interview, Abalos explained that when he went to Colombia several months ago to attend a forum for the United Nations, he saw first-hand how the local law banning male motorcycle passengers was being implemented.

 

 

He said it was implemented, especially in Medellin, to address the crimes committed by drug cartels and the resulting “breakdown of law” there.

 

 

“It was being criticized for it but it was so effective that the incidence of crime in that place went down,” he said.

 

 

Websites for expatriates living in Colombia mention a similar local law being employed in the Medellin municipality to stem crimes committed by “sicarios” or hitmen. However, there was no information on how effective it was.

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Add 1 more case why Mandaluyong banning male duos on bikes

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MANILA, Philippines–A woman fell victim to motorcycle-riding robbers early Tuesday in Mandaluyong City, a week after the local government approved an ordinance that seeks to deter attacks by criminals on bikes.

Rodelyn Murata, 26, was waiting for a taxi near the corner of Sikap Street and Boni Avenue when two male riders aboard a motorcycle stopped next to her around 4 a.m.

Murata later recounted to the police how the back rider, who wielded an ice pick, threatened to hurt her if she refused to hand over her bag.

The robbers got away with the woman’s cell phone, ATM cards and cash amounting to P1,000, police said.

The incident added to the growing number of street-crime incidents that a recently passed Mandaluyong ordinance seeks to address.

The measure, signed by Mayor Benhur Abalos last week, prohibits men from riding together on a bike unless they can present government IDs proving that they are relatives.

Set to take effect on Aug. 30, Ordinance No. 550 had drawn criticism but Abalos maintained that it would only be pilot-tested for six months, after which it would be reviewed.

The mayor maintained that the ordinance was patterned after a law in Colombia.

Last week, Sen. Tito Sotto filed a bill enforcing similar restrictions on bike riders.

The Sotto proposal against what he called “evil Batman-and-Robin tandems” only allows motorcycle riders who are members of a family or on-duty personnel of the military and police.

In filing Senate Bill No. 2344, Sotto pointed out the data from the Philippine National Police showing that more than 3,000 crimes perpetrated by motorcycle riders were recorded last year in Metro Manila alone

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[Jack Peterson]

 I can't Speak for Luzon or Cebu but linked, is what a mayor here on Negros had to say about it.

 

 

 

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/dumaguete/local-news/2014/09/01/negor-mayors-oppose-anti-riding-tandem-bill-363022

 

 

 I Guess, it is going to be one of those laws that will keep us not knowing what to do when we go visiting other Towns, Provinces or Other Islands, You know, Some Do, Some Don't, Some Will, Some Won't. Think I will change my Middle name to Confused   :dance:  When will it ever get to all singing from the same Hymn Sheet.

We All come from a Country where a Law is a Law, here of Course, it is how, that law is Interpreted by Some in Office. Always Of course, at the Expense of those, that listen to them :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Morning All JP :tiphat:

[jon1]

I would think that this would create new jobs for women (women shooters) hehehehe

 

The problem is that there are too many laws that contradict each other and no fair unbiased enforcement of existing laws. Thus creating opportunities for the corrupt to take advantage of the situation and make some side money.

[jon1]

Just ran across this list.. you might enjoy these :)

 

http://8list.ph/idiotic-laws-philippine-politicians/

Edited September 5, 2014 by jon1

[Malcolm Graham]

Latest on the riding tandem bill to be introduced in the Senate

 

THE FAMILY that rides this way together is a no-no under a proposal reaching the Senate. EDWIN BACASMAS

 

As suggested by a safety advocacy group for kids, the Senate is now considering banning small children from riding motorcycles, a restriction that will be based on the minors’ height and reach, not on their age.

The Senate also expressed openness to a motoring group’s recommendation that the Philippine National Police (PNP) go after back riders only if these were both male, instead of imposing an outright ban on tandem riding.

In a hearing on Tuesday, the Senate subcommittee on TRANSPORTATION CHAIRED by Sen. Vicente Sotto III took up his bill prohibiting motorcycle back riders unless the passenger was the driver’s spouse, child or parent. It also discussed two measures that sought to ban children, either 12 years old and younger or 7 years old and younger, from riding on motorcycles.

The proposals were in response to the spate of crimes perpetrated by men on motorcycles and the rising number of ACCIDENTS involving the two-wheelers.

During the hearing, officials of the Motorcycle Philippines Federation (MPF) and the advocacy group Safekids Philippines said the prohibition against children on motorcycles should depend on whether they could reach the foot pegs and wrap their hands around the driver’s waist.

Arturo Sta. Cruz of the MPF and Jesus de la Fuente of Safekids Philippines both observed that children should not be banned from riding on motorcycles based on their age since this would be difficult for authorities to readily determine based on outward appearance.

Sta. Cruz also suggested that instead of Congress passing a new law, the PNP could just issue a directive authorizing its personnel to check motorcycle riders if they consisted of two men on one vehicle.

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[Americano]

 

Latest on the riding tandem bill to be introduced in the Senate

 

THE FAMILY that rides this way together is a no-no under a proposal reaching the Senate. EDWIN BACASMAS

 

As suggested by a safety advocacy group for kids, the Senate is now considering banning small children from riding motorcycles, a restriction that will be based on the minors’ height and reach, not on their age.

The Senate also expressed openness to a motoring group’s recommendation that the Philippine National Police (PNP) go after back riders only if these were both male, instead of imposing an outright ban on tandem riding.

In a hearing on Tuesday, the Senate subcommittee on TRANSPORTATION CHAIRED by Sen. Vicente Sotto III took up his bill prohibiting motorcycle back riders unless the passenger was the driver’s spouse, child or parent. It also discussed two measures that sought to ban children, either 12 years old and younger or 7 years old and younger, from riding on motorcycles.

The proposals were in response to the spate of crimes perpetrated by men on motorcycles and the rising number of ACCIDENTS involving the two-wheelers.

During the hearing, officials of the Motorcycle Philippines Federation (MPF) and the advocacy group Safekids Philippines said the prohibition against children on motorcycles should depend on whether they could reach the foot pegs and wrap their hands around the driver’s waist.

Arturo Sta. Cruz of the MPF and Jesus de la Fuente of Safekids Philippines both observed that children should not be banned from riding on motorcycles based on their age since this would be difficult for authorities to readily determine based on outward appearance.

Sta. Cruz also suggested that instead of Congress passing a new law, the PNP could just issue a directive authorizing its personnel to check motorcycle riders if they consisted of two men on one vehicle.

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/636631/senate-tackles-ban-on-small-kids-riding-bikes#ixzz3CypmCZG9 

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This one looks legal to me, a husband and his wife, no gay riding on the back.  What, there are children?  Don't worry they can make more if some get killed in an accident.  Its the Filipino way.

 

Age requirement for riders would be the best. Make it 18 so they can legally make the decision themselves.  They better be careful on imposing a height and reach restriction because Filipinos are very small people.  Some grown adults may not qualify to ride.

 

The caption under the picture says:  "THE FAMILY that rides this way together is a no-no under a proposal reaching the Senate."

 

This statement is ridiculous because its already a no-no or violation of law. Just looking at the picture I can see at least 3 violations, No Helmets, No Shoes, and Overloaded. Only 2 riders are allowed on Motorcycles.  Endangering children is illegal too but no one cares about that.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Americano

[Malcolm Graham]

You'll probably find there is no violation of a law preventing more than two on a motorbike.  There are also a number of cities, barangays and sub divisions where the wearing of a motorcycle helmet is illegal.  The senate has a law being read were any helmet is illegal to combat the motorcycle crime which is now the biggest method of committing crime in the Philippines.    Maybe living in some of the the out of the way areas makes you think its all a joke but 10 crimes a day by tandem riders in NCR means they have to do something.   

[Call me bubba]

would this be allowed?