MikeB Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Jack, bottom line is they can do what they want. What "rights" we have exist only on paper, they're as real as pixie dust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Here's what BI said on Facebook about 4 hours ago: Bureau of Immigration, Republic of the Philippines 4 hrs · SUESELBECK TO FACE DEPORTATION CHARGES FOR MISBEHAVIOR AT MILITARY CAMP MANILA, Philippines – German national Marc Sueselbeck must face deportation charges before the Bureau of Immigration (BI) for disrespectful acts committed at Camp Aguinaldo last Wednesday. Sueselbeck was offloaded when he attempted to depart the Philippines Sunday afternoon, two days after his partner Jennifer Laude was laid to rest. His passport was placed in the custody of the BI. “Sueselbeck was issued a Charge Sheet for undesirability and placed in the Watchlist on the same day. He was instructed to report to the Legal Division to answer the charges”, said BI spokesperson Atty. Elaine Tan. A foreign national with a deportation charge is placed in the Watchlist and will not be allowed to depart pending deportation proceedings. “Due process dictates that Sueselbeck remain in the country to answer the charges against him. All circumstances will be evaluated in deciding whether his acts constitute undesirability”,according to Tan. If found to be an undesirable alien, Sueselbeck will be placed in the Blacklist and deported to his home country, after ensuring that he has no pending case in local courts. “Departure as a deportee is different from departure as a regular passenger. Deportees need to secure clearances from the National Bureau of Investigation or from the local courts”, explained Tan. The deportation cases for undesirability are heard before the BI’s Board of Special Inquiry. Cases are decided by the Board of Commissioners who meets once a week. “Deportation proceedings are completed in one month on the average, depending on the cooperation of concerned parties and availability of evidence”, explained Tan. Deportation cases may be elevated to the Department of Justice pending finality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert k Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 ROTC solid plastic rifles equipped with bayonets can save alot on ammunition. Cuts down on the bystanders who get shot also. Personally l believe everything inside the wire that does not belong there should be shot and guards who do not perform their duty should be brought up on charges. A military base / camp is not a daycare. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Departure as a deportee is different from departure as a regular passenger Sounds like someone just wants to play bigshot. Should have just let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markham Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 In the Philippines you are innocent until you are proven guilty The Ellah Joy case clearly demonstrated that the presumption of innocence does not apply to foreigners. Before the Bail Hearing commenced two years ago, the Chief Prosecutor for Cebu stated that the Englishman, Ian Griffiths, had to prove his innocence in a court of law in Cebu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted October 27, 2014 Forum Support Posted October 27, 2014 From Philstar today Suselbeck was charged with being an undesirable alien based on Article 2711, Section 69 of the regulations on undesirability. He was accused of showing gross arrogance and serious disrespect to Filipino authorities, specifically the Armed Forces, when he forcibly entered an off-limits area in Camp Aguinaldo and shoved a Filipino military guard. BI Special Prosecutor Homer Arellano said Suselbeck’s presence in the Philippines poses a risk to public interest. http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/10/28/1385199/suselbeck-charged-gross-arrogance-disrespect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAway Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Interesting quote from the PhilStar article. "De Lima said foreigners entering the country would be held liable for violating Philippine law or doing anything to displease the government and the Filipino people." Now that is a very open ended statement there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methersgate Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Thinking back, Sueselbeck was interviewed before he travelled to the Philippines for the wake and the funeral and said some pretty harsh things about the way the nation treats LBGT people at that point. Long memories may be at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeB Posted October 27, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 27, 2014 He is a visitor who trespassed into an off-limits, foreign military installation by climbing a fence, then shoved around an on-duty, uniformed soldier not once but at least twice that I saw. And these were not light pushes. All in front of a whored (correct spelling) of media. He embarrassed the Philippine military and made a public spectacle of it. BI responded by making a public example of him. I think they got it right. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve & Myrlita Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 The question still remains. Does the Filipina sister get charged with a crime was well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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