robert k Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 If one girl was 19, then doesn' it follow that he was not alone with a minor? l agree it still dounds dodgy but did the police spring the trap too soon? Nice point - if she was 19. Anyway, glad he is csught. If he's a predator, l'm glad too, l hope that he will not be a predator who goes home with a story about how he was....almost caught. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted November 7, 2014 Author Posted November 7, 2014 Followup: 10 foreigners under ACG’s watch "Thursday, November 6, 2014 AT LEAST 10 foreign nationals are being monitored by the Anti-Cybercrime Group (ACG) in Central Visayas for allegedly engaging in taking lewd photos of minors. Senior Insp. Michael Vertudazo, ACG 7 chief, said that these foreign nationals have been going in and out of the country. They usually reached the minors through Facebook or other social networking sites. They allegedly stay in Metro Cebu or in Cebu Province, according to the information gathered by ACG 7. Vertudazo said they have been alarmed about the alleged involvement of these foreign nationals in human trafficking that is why the ACG is stepping up on its operation. Last Wednesday, the ACG, in coordination with the Fuente Police Station and International Justice Mission, arrested British national, Christopher John Bragoli, 57. He was allegedly caught with two girls, aged 15 and 19, inside a hotel in Cebu City. The operatives confiscated a laptop and a digital camera from Bragoli. The rescued girls were turned over to the Department of Social Welfare and Development. Vertudazo, however, said that they could not yet open Bragoli’s digital camera and laptop until they get a clearance from the court to open the files. “We are hopeful that we can get evidence from the confiscated gadgets,” he said. The Women and Children Protection Desk (WCPD) of Fuente Police Station, meanwhile, said that the two girls, who are reportedly residents of Barangay Carreta in Cebu City, denied having sex with Bragoli. PO1 Lovelyn Calogue of the Fuente Police who assisted the DSWD in interviewing the girls, told Sun.Star Cebu that the girls claimed that Bragoli offered to have sex with them, but they refused. Bragoli, they said, did not insist. The two girls claimed that they were just taking “selfies” or photos of themselves using Bragoli’s digital camera inside the hotel room. They denied they were posting nude photos. Calogue said that the two girls told the DSWD that they already quit school. The International Justice Mission (IJM) commended ACG for the operation against Bragoli. IJM deputy field office director John Tanagho said in an interview with Sun.Star Cebu that they will make sure that the rescued girls will be properly guided in their intervention programs, if there is any." http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2014/11/06/10-foreigners-under-acg-s-watch-375094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 As a father of 4 daughters, I would say this, if there is Monitoring, there is Smoke, if there is Smoke there is Fire. On this occasion and issue I say, Shoot first ask Questions later. the BOI can expel these men, they would us, if we fell foul of the law. (visa issues) I see little point in paying out money for this type of (surveillance) thing. Swift sharp action is what is needed, If the Authorities knew of their comings and goings and seeming to know about all things when and where, why were these 10, still allowed in. To me they are Undesirables Sorry Folks but this is the Father in me speaking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Swift sharp action is what is needed, If the Authorities knew of their comings and goings and seeming to know about all things when and where, why were these 10, still allowed in Sometimes when I see in a news article where the the police claim to have known about and had been conducting surveillance I believe it's their way of saving face and making themselves look like they are the ball. But I ask myself, as I'm sure many others do, why did the police wait so long to act? A drug operation is different where they might be trying to gather intel on the supplier(s) and work their way up the supply chain, but in a human trafficking case the idea that the police sit and watch as minors get abused for long periods of time is to me appalling. Here's a perfect example, from the Sun Star on Nov. 6th, where a German national was arrested in Cordova, Mactan the other day for allegedly having sex with a multiple minors, at least one of whom was allegedly being pimped by her mother. (Note: Emphasis added) "Senior Insp. Alexander Nuñez, Cordova police chief, said they were tipped off last August by an informant that girls, who appeared to be minors, frequented Moenig’s rented house in a subdivision in Barangay Gabi. His team placed Moenig under surveillance for two months. After confirming that girls were entering Moenig’s house, they secured a search warrant from Mandaue City Regional Trial Court Branch 28 Judge Mercedita Dadole-Ygnacio." So for 2 months the police sat and watched him abuse minors! Really? Full article: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2014/11/06/girl-rescued-foreigner-s-house-375096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted November 8, 2014 Author Posted November 8, 2014 I doubt if "under surveillance" means 24/7 eyes-on. It might amount to talking to the subdivision security guards a couple times. The only proof they have that any abuse took place is the allegations from this 14 year old, which her mother denies. When they entered the house it says the minors were accompanied by adults but it doesn't say if they were relatives. They charged him with violation of RA 7610, which defines many different types of illegal activity, including being in the presence of anyone 10 years younger so they have him dead to rights there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usa32 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Who knows what actually went on. But what foreigner, would go and meet underage kids alone, if he's not a pedophile? If you took pity on them, go to their parents and help out. There is no good reason he could give why he would go and meet underage kids alone. From reading this board, it seems like sound advice, to never be alone with a child in the phillipines regardless. Even ones you know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey Steve Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 From reading this board, it seems like sound advice, to never be alone with a child in the phillipines regardless. Even ones you know. That's a good point too USA32. If an "aquantance" drops off his child to play with your's for the day (or whatever)-you never know if it's a set up for a pay-off from the "rich" foreigner-later facing false charges. Always say NO to a parent's request or any type of related situation. In this guy's case, I agree with the previous posters. It sounds like, swims like, and smells like a fish. Being this OP was in November, I wonder what ever became of this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) So for 2 months the police sat and watched him abuse minors! Really? [/quote Obviously justifying the overtime spent on the case already :thumbsup: from This and the Pork Pie Topic, I sit here on Xmas Eve thinking WTF is this world coming too. :unsure: JP : :tiphat: Edited December 24, 2014 by Jack Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 they will make sure that the rescued girls will be properly guided in their intervention programs, if there is any. So even the authorities don't think this is a big deal? If they were really concerned about the girls, enough to 'rescue' them, then surely there would have to be a follow up program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 So even the authorities don't think this is a big deal? If they were really concerned about the girls, enough to 'rescue' them, then surely there would have to be a follow up program? Of course Dave, it always looks gook on the International and Human Rights Blog the Administration but actually having and /or following any programe here is well................................. JP :tiphat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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