Construction Under Way....well Kinda...

[Jack Peterson]

love to hear members comments on hardi flex ceilings verses gypsum board. My neighbour had hardy board or flex, whatever fitted and is plagued by gaps in the joints.... Been filled many times and still opening with construction expansion. here temperatures drop to around 21 at night.

 

 

 I have Hardi-flex all over the ceilings and soffits,  My Painter is pretty good and has mastered the use of taping as with Gypsum, trick is he tells me is to do the epoxy resin work to cover screw holes first, then apply  painters Putty to the Whole area. The taping hardly Shows and any movement or shrinkage is taken up by the Putty.

 

Worked for me.  :thumbsup:  

 

JP :tiphat:

[RBM]

Had meeting yesterday with engineer, he advised if we want a trouble free ceiling go with acoustic board, or known here as T runner. Followed up with talking to the new excellent manager of Citi hardware Ruel, he also confirmed this. Apparently its used in offices and banks....Shows how little attention I pay. attention I have been paying. 

 

Its a panels so will be checking this out in due course.

[Dave Hounddriver]

if we want a trouble free ceiling go with acoustic board, or known here as T runner.

 

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Are they talking about that suspended ceiling they sell in Citihardware?  I used that kind of thing years ago and its not good for much except looks and I doubt it will keep bugs and lizards out.

[RBM]

if we want a trouble free ceiling go with acoustic board, or known here as T runner.

 

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Are they talking about that suspended ceiling they sell in Citihardware?  I used that kind of thing years ago and its not good for much except looks and I doubt it will keep bugs and lizards out.

Appreciate the reply Dave, exactly what I am seeking as we have heaps of time. Not sure about suspended but local term is Senita, apparently used in Banks. Love read some more details from you.

[Jack Peterson]

Had meeting yesterday with engineer, he advised if we want a trouble free ceiling go with acoustic board, or known here as T runner.

 

 

 That's  OK but you may have a problem with hanging or just Fixing a light Fitting and /or ceiling fan as there is no real Strength in the Finished Job, also RBM, you will have a hell a lot of Hanging Wire that Suport the "T" Bar, Makes moving about up in the Roof Space very Dodgy and you will need to get up there for any extra work or maintenance on existing Cables.

 

JMHO of Course.

 

JP :tiphat:

[Dave Hounddriver]

Love read some more details from you.

 

On the good side, in an earthquake your ceiling will not hurt you if it falls on your head.  At the Mactan ailrport during the big quake of '13 the ceiling panels all fell down and when flying out the next day you could see that their main reason for being was looks and to keep the air conditioning closer to ground level (although that is not needed as my aircon is free to flow up an open staircase and it does not, the cool air seeks its own level and the biggest problem is keeping the hot air from fighting the cool air, which you do with a high roof above the ceiling).

 

Anyway, the panels are not made to fit tight and yes, the lizards find a way through.  Also, they are made to have recessed lighting and the lizards love to hide in those recessed lighting fixtures.  If you love lizards you will love that kind of ceiling.  I hate the little buggers as I find their 'droppngs' and 'leakings' everywhere when they are in the house.

Edited February 20, 2015 by Dave Hounddriver

[Thomas]

As solid pouring is widely used in most western countries and common sense tells me its far more practicable

They normaly DON'T have western type equipments (=No mixer, no shaker to make the concrete compact...)   Because of they don't have shaker they make more wet cement, so it por easier. I don't know if that's the reason too or if it depend of lower cost to make, when they mix in less cement.

once the form for one wall is made it can be used over and over. My guess is they are just to set in their ways to change,

I HOPE so, so I can get it when I will build   :)

 

A French company use a BALOON type when they build houndreds of form to support the INSIDE, when they build small GLOBE shaped concrete houses to give homes to people with destroyed homes, after nature disasters, which can stand floods (just clean it, the house itself can stand it) typhons winds and most eartquakes.  When the iron bar reinforced concrete has dried enough, they take out the air of the baloon,  take it out through the door and blow it up to build next building.

I'm thinking of HOW to make a form IF I decide to build a much biger globe house  - cheap   :)

[i am bob]

if we want a trouble free ceiling go with acoustic board, or known here as T runner.

 

l

Are they talking about that suspended ceiling they sell in Citihardware?  I used that kind of thing years ago and its not good for much except looks and I doubt it will keep bugs and lizards out.

Appreciate the reply Dave, exactly what I am seeking as we have heaps of time. Not sure about suspended but local term is Senita, apparently used in Banks. Love read some more details from you.

This is absolutely the worse thing to use in a house and especially a kitchen area. The fibers shed like dust around the edges and make a mess... If not installed properly, they will fall out on you! i forget who said they don't hurt - get hit by one on edge and they hurt like a batsar%! And all the other reasons above are all true! Don't get this crap! You'll hate yourself after!

[dick mammoth]

Re suspended ceilings vrse hardi flex. They make a wood grain suspended panel looks good but te price i heard was 1000 peso a sq mt installed or 500 if u did it yourself. If u dont want coco lumber in your house the panels r suspended on wires attatched to the concrete floor above so no need for coco framing

i would go haditex butted together with no gap and just paint it. Trying to plaster over a butt joint is very hard to get right

i would also not bother with a scocia around the top.just make it a tight fit to the wall then use no more gaps to fill.gives u a square stopped look and paint ceiling and walls the same colour .cheap and quick

Worked for me

[RBM]

Re suspended ceilings vrse hardi flex. They make a wood grain suspended panel looks good but te price i heard was 1000 peso a sq mt installed or 500 if u did it yourself. If u dont want coco lumber in your house the panels r suspended on wires attatched to the concrete floor above so no need for coco framing

i would go haditex butted together with no gap and just paint it. Trying to plaster over a butt joint is very hard to get right

i would also not bother with a scocia around the top.just make it a tight fit to the wall then use no more gaps to fill.gives u a square stopped look and paint ceiling and walls the same colour .cheap and quick

Worked for me

We want overhead fans so suspended just not going to work.

Interested in your comments just butt the hardi flex together not using putty in the joints. What about the contraction expansion? Thought this would result in cracking.