Dave Hounddriver Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 moving them "unnoticed". I agree with JP. The very definition of theft is moving someone else's property without permission and trying to go "unnoticed" while doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i am bob Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Not only that but since it's known that cows can't climb or fly over the wall... Pigs (fly) maybe but not cows... :mocking: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 You guys miss my POINT. No, it wouldn't. I wrote moving them "unnoticed". Then the owner CAN'T prove it was a theft, while the thief can CLAIM the animals LEGALY... Thomas as funny as it is, Please explain your reasoning, trying to deprive someone of their property is Theft, Deception is a crime in it'self. It's a HUGE difference between what's a crime and what can be PROVEN to be a crime. If/when the THIEF can snatch domestic aminals UNNOTICED, THEN that LAW PROTECT the THIEF, because after 20 days they can SHOW the animals and claim they belong to the THIEF LEGALY. So that LAW is CRAZY. :1 (103): :bash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 It's a HUGE difference between what's a crime and what can be PROVEN to be a crime. ABSOLUTELY not!!!! There is NO difference!!! A crime is a crime whether you can prove it or not. :1 (103): I can also use big letters, red letters, emoticons etc if you think it makes for a more valid point. The actual point is that JP and I do not seem to agree with your opinion in the slightest way. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but if you try to shove it in our faces with big bold print and red letters and head banging you are gonna get the same right back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 It's a HUGE difference between what's a crime and what can be PROVEN to be a crime. ABSOLUTELY not!!!! There is NO difference!!! A crime is a crime whether you can prove it or not. :1 (103): I can also use big letters, red letters, emoticons etc if you think it makes for a more valid point. The actual point is that JP and I do not seem to agree with your opinion in the slightest way. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but if you try to shove it in our faces with big bold print and red letters and head banging you are gonna get the same right back. Absolutly NOT not :) It's a HUGE difference... You still don't get my point... You are CORECT conserning what's MORALY wrong BUT in the case I'm talking about the CRAZY LAW have made it LEGALY corect to claim the animals after 20 days. so then can the THIEF sell them in PUBLIC WITHOUT it being LEGALY wrong, as long as the move is UNNOTICED. That's why the law is CRAZY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Glatt Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Lots of crazy laws everywhere. But if they can live with the deception Thomas, well I be dining with them in the after life. Now if you had a short fence with poison ivy or such as a climbing plant and roses planted outside and blackberries inside, they may chase their bees wherever they wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 then can the THIEF sell them in PUBLIC WITHOUT it being LEGALY wrong Not a legal leg to Stand on my friend. He would need a Permit to sell as laid down in Article 5 or the Anti Rustling decree 533. Sec. 5. Permit to buy and sell large cattle. No person, partnership, association, corporation or entity shall engage in the business of buy and sell of large cattle without first securing a permit for the said purpose from the Provincial Commander of the province where it shall conduct such business and the city/municipal treasurer of the place of residence of such person, partnership, association, corporation or entity. The permit shall only be valid in such province. http://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno533.html So what good is Stolen/Rustled Cattle. and you would be Rustling not just stealing. No permit To buy, OH! Sir where did you get them from? No permit to sell OH! Sir where did you get them from? JP :tiphat: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 then can the THIEF sell them in PUBLIC WITHOUT it being LEGALY wrong Not a legal leg to Stand on my friend. He would need a Permit to sell as laid down in Article 5 or the Anti Rustling decree 533. Sec. 5. Permit to buy and sell large cattle. No person, partnership, association, corporation or entity shall engage in the business of buy and sell of large cattle without first securing a permit for the said purpose from the Provincial Commander of the province where it shall conduct such business and the city/municipal treasurer of the place of residence of such person, partnership, association, corporation or entity. The permit shall only be valid in such province. http://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno533.html So what good is Stolen/Rustled Cattle. and you would be Rustling not just stealing. No permit To buy, OH! Sir where did you get them from? No permit to sell OH! Sir where did you get them from? But that's what the duscussion started with :) = GOT by CLAIM them after the old owner hasn't demanded them back within 20 days, which he couldn't because he couldn't find them in time. Still conclusion: Only give 20 days to old owners, make it EASY for THIEVES = CRAZY LAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Still conclusion: Only give 20 days to old owners, make it EASY for THIEVES = CRAZY LAW. Tell it to the court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i am bob Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I went to the Brgy Captain's office and asked about the cows... If the owner reported the cows stolen, they are stolen. Next issue? :D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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