Sooo....

[Larry45]

Politics and religion are personal to the individual and in any relationship the others views/beliefs should be respected and surely should not distract from a relationship if all other areas are compatible. In fact these differences can give rise to interesting debate.

 

In a perfect world, this should happen....but this is the Philippines, where discrimination is rampant and respect for others is much less common.

 

 

You have made this post in Relationships - Internet Dating and I have no clue what this is all about.  Care to elaborate?

 

Edited my origial post Dave to be more reasonable.

 

Me, a practicing capital "C" catholic, with a strong social conscious, is going to meet a girl I met in RL years ago through filipino friends.  We've been in correspondence in the last few months on the internet.  Not it's not a internet dating site but yes, it is still the internet.  She's a born again Christian (they really don't like catholics generally speaking) and remembers Ferdinand Marcos with fondness (yes, she's old enough to remember his regime) and is a strong supporter of his progeny in the current election campaign.  So on the surface, diametrically opposed.  

 

Brett, seems like it could be a problematic situation.  As noted, the 'born-agains' tend to look down on the Filipino Catholics as being hypocritical and fake Christians, and there's some truth in that.  You might want to remind the girl and her family that your culture and it's variety of Catholicism is much different than the Filipino version. 

 

If it doesn't work out with this one, I would just target traditional Catholic Filipinas, and play to your strengths.  It's a huge boost to your value being Catholic and in the eyes of a girl and her family, your level of respectability is much higher because of it.  Good luck to ya   :thumbsup:  

[Jack Peterson]

Each to our own I guess but for me, not sure putting 2 of the 3 worst things to discuss against the 3rd would be the best thing to do as a ground for a Relationship.

What don't we discuss too much, Politics, Religion and Sex of course. :no:

 

Hope it goes well for you.

 

Jack :)

[Thomas]

My significant other is a catholic and I a heathen, but we are happy.  I had to learn to respect her beliefs though.

Well. It's a huge difference between

a catholic God BELIEVER, who visit church sometimes,

and a catholic FANATIC, who think everything in the bible is true just because it's in the bible...

 

I have no problem with the first, even finding it GOOD if my kids will get some education in christianity, because it's a part of our culture

but I will surely NOT marry a fanatic. 

Politics and religion are personal to the individual and in any relationship the others views/beliefs should be respected and surely should not distract from a relationship if all other areas are compatible.

But would all the areas REALY be compatible, if such fundamental oppinions are "opposite" and strong???

[BrettGC]

Back to the subject at hand.  I've met said lady a couple of times in the past through mutual filipino friends.  Despite our differences we actually get on like a house on fire.  Yes, she takes her faith very seriously but she's not one to try to push it on others. For her, like me, it's also a deeply personal thing, and I can respect that and so can she.  As to the politics....

 

Yes she's old enough to remember when Marcos was in power, but she remembers it with fondness. As an outsider being in Subic when the "yellow" revolution was happening, I believe Marcos supporters only remember the economic benefits to the few; which strangely, didn't benefit the vast majority of filipinos other than the elite. Yep, Aquino and cronies are only marginally better but hey, when you've got two options.. Corazon would be rolling in her grave.  

 

I guess my point is, how do I get my perspective across to her without offending at an early stage of the relationship?  It seems to me that Filipinos in general are very politically naive and go for the ones that have the best marketing campaign. 

 

Not sure what it is, but I can see a lot of worth in this woman.  I guess I can take it back to my parents;  My father is a dyed in the wool socialist, my mother is very much centre with a leaning to the right.  They've been together for fifty years next year. 

 

PS, she doesn't want anymore kids!!

 

Edit: PPS it's my father that is the religious one, mum is very firmly an atheist. 

Edited November 13, 2015 by BrettGC

[Hey Steve]

I guess my point is, how do I get my perspective across to her without offending at an early stage of the relationship?  It seems to me that Filipinos in general are very politically naive and go for the ones that have the best marketing campaign. 

 

 

I can only speak about this as if I were in your place (all things considered in what you've pointed out) from my own perspective, Brett. I find it easy to work around the political standpoint she shares with you-as this is history-done and gone and no reason to even debate this as it's past anyway. Religous views, however, short term seems to be a non issue and she may get some prodding from her religous circle of friends as to the mis match in the style you two practice your faith, but maybe in time you two can come to an understanding on this issue that makes it workable. But knowing these are hot button topics and seeing this is not deterring you two from getting together, says a lot. She must be quite a catch with qualities galore, Brett

[virginprune]

Politics and religion are personal to the individual and in any relationship the others views/beliefs should be respected and surely should not distract from a relationship if all other areas are compatible.

But would all the areas REALY be compatible, if such fundamental oppinions are "opposite" and strong???

I very much believe so unless either or both are fanatical in their beliefs. Because as we all know fanatics will not debate or discuss because they believe they are right and would not even consider a relationship unless the prospective partner was a fanatic as well. Edited November 13, 2015 by virginprune

[Old55]

I didn't realize you had spent time with her. 

Wouldn't it be more productive if your questions were discussed with her? Better to just speak with her to do with your concerns if its an issue with her better to know now than later.

[BrettGC]

I didn't realize you had spent time with her. 

Wouldn't it be more productive if your questions were discussed with her? Better to just speak with her to do with your concerns if its an issue with her better to know now than later.

 

 

Nothing wrong with canvassing different perspectives and then making a decision.  

[Jake]

 

I didn't realize you had spent time with her. 

Wouldn't it be more productive if your questions were discussed with her? Better to just speak with her to do with your concerns if its an issue with her better to know now than later.

 

 

Nothing wrong with canvassing different perspectives and then making a decision.  

 

Despite our differences we actually get on like a house on fire.

 

Hey Brett,

 

Nothing wrong about a good healthy discussion about your dilemma.  It makes us think if we were in similar situation.  But I believe in this case, you need to go with the flow.  And the flow is pretty good, if you ask me.  But in order to break the ice even further, may I suggest something else to keep that flow lubricated.

 

How about a little distraction from serious thoughts and deep personal background checks of each other.  How about introducing her to the underwater world of the Philippines.  You can teach her scuba diving for example or teach her how to swim for that matter.  I'm sure the ocean is your favorite playground, so teach her what you know and what you do in that environment.  

 

As you can imagine, having an underwater camera will give you and her lasting memories.  The flow is now......well lubricated.  

 

Respectfully -- Jake 

[stevewool]

As you can imagine, having an underwater camera will give you and her lasting memories. The flow is now......well lubricated.

 

 

Jake can i ask do you write for Playboy magazine :thumbsup: