Hunting

[Jack Peterson]

:no: Can someone please text me when things are back to normal!  :thumbsup:  err we have 5 guests viewing if anyone is Interested.

[i am bob]

Sorry, Jack, you know me... I get carried away sometimes... :)

[Thomas]

 

Im looking to meet together regularly with those interested in small game or Pig hunts.

 

I am wondering if you have given any thought to where you would find any small game or non-domestic pigs to hunt?  I have see locals hunting for small birds (with pellet guns for food mainly) and I have seen them hunting lizards and snakes (with sticks, not guns).  As I think about it, the only kind of hunting I have noticed filipinos do, is other humans (political, drug related, gang related, or kidnapping related hunting).

I don't believe there are any big left to hunt, they are all eaten   :mocking:

(Except water living (e g crockodiles). Plus in protected areas. E g there are some realy big lizzards (I guess 50-60 kg) in protected area in El Nido.)

[pabrides]

 

 

Im looking to meet together regularly with those interested in small game or Pig hunts.

 

I am wondering if you have given any thought to where you would find any small game or non-domestic pigs to hunt?  I have see locals hunting for small birds (with pellet guns for food mainly) and I have seen them hunting lizards and snakes (with sticks, not guns).  As I think about it, the only kind of hunting I have noticed filipinos do, is other humans (political, drug related, gang related, or kidnapping related hunting).

I don't believe there are any big left to hunt, they are all eaten   :mocking:

(Except water living (e g crockodiles). Plus in protected areas. E g there are some realy big lizzards (I guess 50-60 kg) in protected area in El Nido.)

 

The PI gov and their other semi official organizations get money, I believe,  from national and international tree hugger organizations with ties to US gov agencies (or other socialist govs) which have some, but not too much, influence.  I believe the whole hunting - fishing- trapping fiasco here is due to the Pi Gov trying to keep the money coming in while satisfying the needs and desires of the locals.  I believe there is a lot of look-the-other-way enforcement strategy, with just enough prosecutions to make the tree huggers happy.   Amazingly, there are indigenous tribes that are allowed to hunt and fish species that are denied to what they call Christian populations.  The task of managing wildlife in the PI must be a nightmare.  American military are given hunting rights on Philippine soil for some reason.  And weapons cannot be lent by anyone to hunt - whatever that means - unless you are in the military and using a military firearm. 

 

All I would like to do now is establish a dialogue with other expats interested in ethical hunting so that we might approach the PI gov with serious questions and proposals.  I fear, honestly, that they will not listen to an individual foreigner with any degree of seriousness once they find out that there is no profit in it.

[scott h]

I fear, honestly, that they will not listen to an individual foreigner with any degree of seriousness once they find out that there is no profit in it.

 

I think you are completely correct on this one, even if you did find the right branch and finally meet the right person in charge none of us would be able to enjoy the experience,,,,,,,,,,,,,because its hard to hunt in wheel chairs and walkers, that's how long its likely to take :hystery: .

 

I think the best bet would be to find a large land owner in the area you are interested in hunting with a wild pig problem, and either offer to clear out the vermin. Or most likely he will charge you for the privilege lololol. Most likely the biggest problem will be to find a person that can make a decision, since I am willing to bet that

[pabrides]

 

I fear, honestly, that they will not listen to an individual foreigner with any degree of seriousness once they find out that there is no profit in it.

 

I think you are completely correct on this one, even if you did find the right branch and finally meet the right person in charge none of us would be able to enjoy the experience,,,,,,,,,,,,,because its hard to hunt in wheel chairs and walkers, that's how long its likely to take :hystery: .

 

I think the best bet would be to find a large land owner in the area you are interested in hunting with a wild pig problem, and either offer to clear out the vermin. Or most likely he will charge you for the privilege lololol. Most likely the biggest problem will be to find a person that can make a decision, since I am willing to bet that

 

You may be right about approaching land owners for the short term, but I feel it is not beyond the capacity of a group of well meaning and industrious expats to think outside the box and politely challenge the politicians with an alternative source of national income - foreigners hunting managed game instead of foreigners hunting unmanaged prostitutes.

[Dave Hounddriver]

Amazingly, there are indigenous tribes that are allowed to hunt and fish species that are denied to what they call Christian populations.

 

They must have learned that from watching the indigenous peoples of Canada legally going hunting and fishing the week before the season opens for non-natives.

[Thomas]

Amazingly, there are indigenous tribes that are allowed to hunt and fish species that are denied to what they call Christian populations

What's amazing with that??

Indigenous tribes usualy hunt SUSTAINABLE if it's isn't made impossible by OTHERS e g by TAKING much of their land... 

(E g one tribe were SCARED away from their land in Agusan del Sur earlier this year by a private army belonging to a big mine company, who want to start mining there...

[Hey Steve]

(quote from pabrides)..."I feel it is not beyond the capacity of a group of well meaning and industrious expats to think outside the box and politely challenge the politicians with an alternative source of national income - foreigners hunting managed game instead of foreigners hunting unmanaged prostitutes".

 

It's just my gut feel, if the above proposal was given ver batum as stated above to the "politicians" ..will they just listen and do nothing?-or will they say "I'll get right on that since it was said nicely?" 

[Old55]

You may be right about approaching land owners for the short term, but I feel it is not beyond the capacity of a group of well meaning and industrious expats to think outside the box and politely challenge the politicians with an alternative source of national income - foreigners hunting managed game instead of foreigners hunting unmanaged prostitutes.

 

Anything is possible in Philippines but for the most part it's all about the money.

 

 Pabrides, if you were to build a business plan that clearly showed potential profit for little effort and at the same time promoted tourism you could be onto something. Your latter comment proves that point. :3_12_31[1]: