Jack Peterson Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 keeps the floor dry in the CR. So long as people are gonna sit on the toilet and wash with a ladle full of water instead of (or in addition to) using tp the floor is going to be wet. Ours never has time to get Dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofthecoldland Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 keeps the floor dry in the CR. So long as people are gonna sit on the toilet and wash with a ladle full of water instead of (or in addition to) using tp the floor is going to be wet. Ours never has time to get Dry I can't even recall the last time i used the western 'dry bathroom floor' method here for serious business. Just goes to show what living here long term does to a man's life-long habits and norms. When in Rome..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post barryneves Posted February 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted February 25, 2016 Having read and heard the usual horror stories about house builds in the Philippines, I thought I would try and offset them with an account of what has been an extremely stress-free and enjoyable experience. I would add that until the recent birth of my daughter, I had always stood firmly in the rent, don’t build camp. However, her arrival brought about a change in perspective, and this build is my way of ensuring that both mother and daughter have a solid base to call their own long after my demise! After 10 years here, I went into this with eyes wide open and in full knowledge of the possible downsides and outcome. We live in Valencia, just up the road from Dumaguete. The land purchased is literally across the road from our present home and consists of two 400+ square meter sections. The intention was to build on one and use the other as a garden /dog run for the present. Possibly further down the line it could be developed or sold, as needs be. I initially did a rough sketch of the basic outline of what I wanted – 135 square meter 3 bed house with en-suite cr in master bedroom along with the overall area of the property’s footprint. I then took the advice of a very good Filipino friend who lives close by and contacted one of the municipal architects who drew up the blueprints and helped us expedite both fencing and building permit. Once these were completed, we were faced with the most important decision of all, who to go with as a contractor. Our intention was to do a turn-key operation, as I still work and did not relish trying to manage a building site, something with which I have zero knowledge! We obtained several quotes, including one from a very nice American guy who does some building up this way. Again, after canvassing local opinion and talking to both locals and expats in the area, we settled on a contractor called Isidro (Dhing) Santos, who is based within a km or two of Valencia Plaza. His quote was not the cheapest by any means, but our due diligence and instincts told us to go with him. And that was the luckiest, and best decision I have made in a long time. Suffice to say that, from start to finish, Mr Santos has been the consummate professional. He has been reliable, helpful, ethical and capable of thinking outside the box. Whenever I asked him to make any slight change or do any additional work in addition to that specified in the contract, the end result always far exceeded my expectations. The day after we signed the contract, Mr Santos accompanied my wife to the local hardware outlets in Dumaguete and purchased all the tiles, doors, kitchen worktops, windows etc. neede to complete the build and stored them in his warehouse. He also had his brother Toto Santos begin work on fabricating the roofing trusses immediately. From the get go he inspired confidence, more so as he was onsite each and every day throughout construction. His crew, who mostly come from Bindoy, a small place some 80 kms north of here, lived on-site and were the nicest, most hard-working bunch of guys you could hope to meet. They normally worked Monday thru till Saturday midday, but some weekends they worked straight through. The average number on-site each day was 10, though this was often increased to 12 or 13 whenever hitches appeared, such as the need to dig out and remove some huge volcanic boulders, all of which was done by manpower alone! The result of this approach was that the roof was on the property by around the 45th working day and the whole build topped out at 3 months 10 days, just three days over the estimated completion date given when the contract was signed. Throughout this period, all the work was done to a high standard under Mr Santos’ ever-watchful scrutiny, and the result, as usual, was everything we had hoped for and more. What started out at 135 sq meters panned out at around 180, as we ended up adding on an enclosed carport that runs the full length of the house and will effectively be a combined carport, storeroom and dirty kitchen! My wife, not having had many dealing s with officialdom up to that point, was understandably apprehensive as the build neared completion about navigating officialdom to get all the necessary inspections, signatures and clearances from City Hall to get an electricity connection. Having told Mr Santos of her concerns, he kindly did most of the legwork involved, arranged for the fire protection and electrical engineer’s inspection and had all the paperwork prepared for her so all she had to do was submit it to our local energy cooperative. I am not sure whether I am allowed to give Mr Santos’ contact details here, but if not, I would be happy to PM them to anyone who might wish to use his services. I am one very satisfied customer and would not hesitate to recommend him to anyone contemplating taking the plunge and building their own place! I have included some pics of the build from day 01 to the present day (December23). All that remains to be done is some of the fitting out inside and the last licks of paint. This will be completed next week. I would add that we owe an immense debt of gratitude to several Filipino friends here in Valencia, without whose advice and assistance I would never have contemplated such a project, much less completed it in such a stress-free manner. We could not have done it without them. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryneves Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Just a few interior pics to conclude. The place has 10 ft ceilings which, when combined with double-sided roof insulation and very large jalousie plus windows with mirrored one-way bronze glass completely preclude the need for aircon up here in Valencia. Bedrooms were kept to a modest size to allow for more living space and both en-suite cr and walk-through closet. LED lighting throughout. Bit of a one-off expense that will hopefully pay for itself over time. Last pic of self with Mr Santos. Edited March 22, 2016 by Jollygoodfellow removed linked images to another forum 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryneves Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Just an update. Project complete and have now moved in. All good - no glitches. Delighted with the outcome! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted February 25, 2016 Author Posted February 25, 2016 I would like to thank Stevewool for his contribution, I think you got a great deal with your house, overall its in excess of 100 sqm in area for close on 1 million which equates to 10,000 peso a metre - bargain and its multistory. I myself prefer single story, not getting any younger but the fact you can build what you did for 1 million gives me great hope. Now although I said my budget was a max of 1.5 million, others budgets maybe higher so if you have plans or pics of your house and it cost 10 million still post it, although its above my planned spend, someone else may be interested in that. And yes I know the risks, I've already lost one house (Thailand) but I am welcome to go there anytime. And as I said Im building it for the one I love and I can afford to lose the 1.5 million if our relationship ended, but Im hoping the relationship lasts the test of time. I agree only spend what you can afford to lose. Thanks again for everyones contribution and lets try to remain positive. As a matter of interest, for those of you who say rent only, and you are living with the one you love (or claim to love), if the relationship ends or you pass away have you made provision for her? For those of us who have had failed marriages before in our home country, at least if your loved one had a house in the Philippines, your previous family would find it difficult to lay claim to that from our home countries. Just a thought, its about making provisions to for life after you. Families are funny when it comes to money, no matter where you are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted February 25, 2016 Author Posted February 25, 2016 Barryneves, Thank you for being so generous with your explanation and pics much appreciated. As a matter of interest how much did your house cost in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryneves Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Hi Ynot! PM sent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert k Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 keeps the floor dry in the CR. So long as people are gonna sit on the toilet and wash with a ladle full of water instead of (or in addition to) using tp the floor is going to be wet. Well Dave, what I outlined like I would want there would be a shower room....a CR and lav room....and a full master bath with shower /CR/lav. I hope to god I would at least have one toilet with a dry floor but I take your meaning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert k Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 keeps the floor dry in the CR. So long as people are gonna sit on the toilet and wash with a ladle full of water instead of (or in addition to) using tp the floor is going to be wet. Ours never has time to get Dry I can't even recall the last time i used the western 'dry bathroom floor' method here for serious business. Just goes to show what living here long term does to a man's life-long habits and norms. When in Rome..... You mean throw Christians to the lions? That's what I always think of when people say When In Rome.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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