Beheading of Canadian John Ridsdel

[Jollygoodfellow]

Strange

This would be the only forum with no comments or topic on the beheading of the Canadian,  John Ridsdel. Personally I did not think they would have done it and I hope the bastards are tracked down, castrated, shot and burned at the stake which would still be too good for them. 

 

A Canadian man murdered by militants in the Philippines has been described as a "kind and gregarious person who touched everyone he knew with his enthusiasm and generosity."

John Ridsdel was beheaded by Islamist militant group Abu Sayyaf, which took him hostage along with three others in September last year.
In a statement, Ridsdel's family said he "loved life and lived it to the fullest with his family and friends at the center. He was loved by all his friends and adored by his daughters, sister and extended family."
"Our family is devastated at the loss of our father and brother John Ridsdel whose life was cut tragically short by this senseless act of violence."
Bob Rae, a close friend of Ridsdel said that "lots of effort" was made to respond

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[Dave Hounddriver]

7 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

This would be the only forum with no comments or topic on the beheading of the Canadian,  John Ridsdel.

Publicity is a weapon.  Nothing has been done to stop these assholes, nothing I/we say will cause anything to be done.  It only gives the terrorists feedback to know whether there plan had the desired effect or not.

Condolences to the family of the victim{s?}

[Old55]

Sadly now this type of barbaric activity is now become typical in Mindanao. It seems those in charge have little interest in dealing with it.  

[scott h]

18 minutes ago, Old55 said:

It seems those in charge have little interest in dealing with it.  

How does a government deal with it? Treat it as a police matter? Police rely heavily upon civilian cooperation (information and cooperation to name a couple) like has been stated on many other topics, from politics, to traffic to littering, the civilian population doesn't care because it doesn't affect them directly, they benefit from the terrorists in some way, or they are just frightened into apathy. Treat it as a military conflict? Even if the PAF had the capabilities, does the country have the political will? In my view it would take an all out "sustained" offensive with major collateral to the civilian populace and infrastructure (such as there is).

This group is really just a criminal gang now, their numbers are estimated to be down to about 400 now. They affiliate themselves with what ever Islamic radical group is fashionable at the moment for publicity purposes. They have pledged now to ISIS, before to Al Quida etc. etc.

So frankly, what's to be done? 

[robert k]

37 minutes ago, scott h said:

How does a government deal with it? Treat it as a police matter? Police rely heavily upon civilian cooperation (information and cooperation to name a couple) like has been stated on many other topics, from politics, to traffic to littering, the civilian population doesn't care because it doesn't affect them directly, they benefit from the terrorists in some way, or they are just frightened into apathy. Treat it as a military conflict? Even if the PAF had the capabilities, does the country have the political will? In my view it would take an all out "sustained" offensive with major collateral to the civilian populace and infrastructure (such as there is).

This group is really just a criminal gang now, their numbers are estimated to be down to about 400 now. They affiliate themselves with what ever Islamic radical group is fashionable at the moment for publicity purposes. They have pledged now to ISIS, before to Al Quida etc. etc.

So frankly, what's to be done? 

Good one. They are designer terrorists.

Recruit people close to them, get some good intel and knock off some good sized chunks of them. Maybe assassinate them instead of military operations? Offer a big bounty for any of the known terrorists, double it for the imported terrorists. Terrorists might kill other terrorists for one million PHP on the basis of I never liked him anyway and that is good money! Can you imagine how charming these people must be?

[earthdome]

On 4/27/2016 at 7:29 PM, robert k said:

Good one. They are designer terrorists.

Recruit people close to them, get some good intel and knock off some good sized chunks of them. Maybe assassinate them instead of military operations? Offer a big bounty for any of the known terrorists, double it for the imported terrorists. Terrorists might kill other terrorists for one million PHP on the basis of I never liked him anyway and that is good money! Can you imagine how charming these people must be?

I agree. Keep the response low level. There are millions of filipino's who are muslim. Only a few hundred are responsible for these criminal acts. Avoid any broad based or heavy handed actions that could create collateral damage. i.e. kill non combatants, which has the potential to create more terrorists.

Edited April 30, 2016 by earthdome

[Gratefuled]

On 26 April 2016 at 7:42 AM, scott h said:

So frankly, what's to be done?

I think the Philippine government knows what has to be done. They have just been dragging their feet about it. If I remember correctly, when the Americans were kidnapped, our military got involved and rescued them. The husband of the missionary couple was killed but she was rescued and the main guy responsible was killed. So, I think the Philippine government is waiting for outside help since it's not one of theirs who is being held and not one of theirs who is being beheaded.

[Gratefuled]

6 hours ago, earthdome said:

I agree. Keep the response low level. There are millions of filipino's who are muslim. Only a few hundred are responsible for these criminal  acts. Avoid any broad based or heavy handed actions that could create collateral damage. i.e. kill non combatants, which has the potential to create more terrorists.

In Vietnam, they evacuated villages where collaborators might be living and supplying the VC but this for Philippine military to do. Collaborators have always been a problem even as far back as WW2 in the Philippines.