New President

[mogo51]

the article sways back and forth, but there is an underlying slur as I read it towards Duterte.  As Robert said, he has not taken power yet but that seems to be above the point to some.

[Jack Peterson]

11 minutes ago, mogo51 said:

 As Robert said, he has not taken power yet but that seems to be above the point to some.

 Now here is a Statement for Discussing. POWER! He forgets, as many new leaders do, He was elected President Not Dictator, many Bolshie men seem to loose the Flavour (Meaning) of the what an Election does, It Elects a Person into OFFICE Not power, The Power things is to me, just their way of Subjecting their thoughts on the People

 

JMHO

Jack

Morning All 

Edited June 16, 2016 by Jack Peterson
A little punctuation correction sorry all

[Larry45]

15 hours ago, mogo51 said:

the article sways back and forth, but there is an underlying slur as I read it towards Duterte.  As Robert said, he has not taken power yet but that seems to be above the point to some.

Well, there's been a few developments since the election.  Pushing away the US, drawing closer to China, appointing Communists to his cabinet, giving citizens the OK to shoot suspected "bad guys", considering Martial Law in certain areas, etc.  Do we simply disregard all that, because he hasn't taken office?  How long should we stay in "wait and see" mode? Until something develops that provides confirmation of a bias?

[mogo51]

As I said until he is sworn in.  'power' is just another term, when he is sworn in he is given the power of his Office?

Just what do you propose to do about his actions to date?  Whilst I may have a few doubts, there is nothing me, you or any other westerner living in Philippines.  Me especially, as I am not there yet!

[Dave Hounddriver]

2 hours ago, Jack Peterson said:

He was elected President Not Dictator

 

Here is where I disagree.  I think the population knew darn well Duterte planned to be a dictator as he made no secret of it.  The majority elected him for that reason, I suspect.  They seem to think the system is broken and needs a mechanic to fix it, not a panel of the ususal suspects who just want to talk about it.

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Manila, Philippines (CNN)Rodrigo Duterte, who is set to clinch the presidency of the Philippines, said he will be a "dictator" against evil

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/10/asia/philippines-election-duterte/

[Larry45]

15 hours ago, mogo51 said:

As I said until he is sworn in.  'power' is just another term, when he is sworn in he is given the power of his Office?

Just what do you propose to do about his actions to date?  Whilst I may have a few doubts, there is nothing me, you or any other westerner living in Philippines.  Me especially, as I am not there yet!

Not much we can do, but leave.  I'm actually touring around the region in a few months to assess that possibility.  I agree with Dave that the Philippines needs a dictator, and I feel like the average Filipino will be better off in six years.  But it's not easy to believe the average expat will be.  I would keep my options open for now, if I was considering a move here.

[Jack Peterson]

12 minutes ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

Manila, Philippines (CNN)Rodrigo Duterte, who is set to clinch the presidency of the Philippines, said he will be a "dictator" against evil

Whilst in the main I would agree and Like your post, This is hardly PC Democracy is It? No wonder the PI is in for a Rough Ride.

[Dave Hounddriver]

8 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said:

This is hardly PC Democracy is It?

Oh so true.  And that is the root cause of my feelings of insecurity.  Other members have said I should leave if I am really afraid, but what is to be afraid of?  We really do not know!  Until he takes office and does whatever he plans to do we will not know if he will be a lame duck, a benevolent dictator, or a Hitler wannabe.  Who can say for sure?

[Benington]

The incoming President and his team have tried to "hit the ground running" since the 16m plus votes landslide election victory last month. But the helicopter's landing was always set for June 30 and so all we have had so far are the questionable drug and heinous crimes efforts plus half-baked and ill-considered outbursts in many directions at home and abroad. Consequently many of his vote may be having second thoughts on their choice  A few days ago Social Weather Stations reported incoming President Duterte's net approval rating at +26, while his side-lined incoming Vice President Robredo was at +54. Given the recent landslide this is a very big reversal, even allowing for polling error, and must be an unprecedented situation here. And perhaps worldwide?

Why the haste? Was it because a pre-inauguration power snatch was feared? Or was it just the plain inexperience of people used to Davao politics? Whatever, it's been a bad start for a politician and team with a hugely ambitious agenda.

No doubt about it, there are many people here, especially those with no experience of past dictators, who really do seek a benevolent one to be in charge here. But surely nowhere near all 16m of his voters. I think there must be a good proportion of them starting to wonder if they can get a goods exchange of their choice as they can do with purchases from major retailers here.

A lot may change after June 30 and things may improve for the incoming President and team - but only if they take some lessons from the last month. My opinion is that if they do that they may get some of their less controversial and useful reforms through - otherwise they may not be allowed to get much done at all.

 

 

[Tukaram (Tim)]

1 hour ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

Here is where I disagree.  I think the population knew darn well Duterte planned to be a dictator as he made no secret of it.  The majority elected him for that reason, I suspect.  They seem to think the system is broken and needs a mechanic to fix it, not a panel of the ususal suspects who just want to talk about it.

I agree.  Seems to me they have not had democracy very long, and I think a lot of them don't really like it, or don't want to be bothered with it.  Problem is when you get a dictator - will he be a benevolent dictator?