Visitors at the house-dialogue

[chris49]

18 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

This is a country where we don't usually have 'the right' to ask the neighbor to quiet down his kids, tv, dogs, chickens, karaoke or what have you.  Anyone who feels they have 'the right' to expect English spoken in their house is doomed to be perpetually disappointed.  But one can always ask, or stamp our feet and demand, and that works sometimes.  (I mean, if it really worked we would not be having this discussion.)

Noted your reply. Also noted the misquote in your reply. If you are using quotation marks you should be using the exact quote and I ask you to make that correction. Or remove the quotation marks because that's not what I said.

[bows00]

On ‎6‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 6:36 PM, Onemore52 said:

I must add that I have only just recently retired and am only now living here, which is no excuse but at the moment I have too much going on to sit down and learn the language, which as a novice could take a bloody long time.

Basically I just think it is rude for them to do it in my house, so much so that I have pulled the "welcome mat" in.

Cheers,

Chee

 

 

Sorry, but I have a different take on this subject for I have been on the other side.  I have a mother born and raised in Japan but decided to live here in the US.  For 40 plus years, she did not bother to learn English.  Whenever we have family get togethers, she speaks to us only in Japanese and we converse with her in Japanese also, to the best of our abilities.  However, she is always left out whenever we have deep conversations at the dinner table because she gets lost whenever the conversation turns to English, and often ends up leaving us to watch some Japanese TV program.

So this is my take on this.  You live in the Philippines.  It is YOUR responsibility to learn the language.  And if you decide NOT to learn the language, for whatever reason, be prepared to be left out on many conversations and denied of many bonding experiences, even to the point of eventually being an outsider.

That's my take on it.  And I also recommend the "Pimsluer" system for a good start for Tagalog ("Rosetta Stone" just doesn't do it for me).         

[Kuya John]

1 hour ago, bows00 said:

.  You live in the Philippines.  It is YOUR responsibility to learn the language.  And if you decide NOT to learn the language, for whatever reason, be prepared to be left out on many conversations and denied of many bonding experiences, even to the point of eventually being an outsider.

        

Bows00, Some of us don't live in the Philippines, so what's your take on that?

It's not nice to feel the outsider in your own country

Respectfully John

[Kuya John]

12 hours ago, Nephi said:

Love it! Maybe I'll buy fake hearing aids and then if someone asks for anything I'll just tell them sorry--low batt! Just like a cell phone ...

Being one who recently started using hearing aids........I must remember that one

Guy's n Gal's I've had my moan, but I still love my visits to Philippines and truthfully I get more respect there, than locally here in UK when it comes down to conversations. So lets all have a Moan free day on me

[Paul_QLD]

My wife is female and speaks a different language to me everyday in Australia, in that aspect she is no different to any other woman I have dated!
 

[Onemore52]

So last night we had another gathering in my house with me providing the food and drink, with me doing the cooking on the bbq, this time however the people that came were all family members and knew that I have a limited grasp of  the native tongue.

The conversation was in English for most of the night and if it reverted to Talago I just went to the adjoiningroom and watched the TV.

In my original post I asked  for suggestions from the forum and many were given, so thanks to the members that replied, which is what this forum is for, I think.

Now that I have sifted through all the suggestions I can take the necessary steps to have a peaceful life in MY HOUSE, and when I meet people that cannot speak English in my travels I will be more tolerant.

I WILL PASS on the directive that I start taking lessons in Tagalog.

[frosty (chris)]

7 hours ago, bows00 said:

 

So this is my take on this.  You live in the Philippines.  It is YOUR responsibility to learn the language.  And if you decide NOT to learn the language, for whatever reason, be prepared to be left out on many conversations and denied of many bonding experiences, even to the point of eventually being an outsider.

        

This is only my experience here, I think you will find even if you can speak Filipino you will be on the outer, when the ladies get together for a session they talk as quick as machine guns going of, all talking at once and as far as I can tell no-one actually listening, also filipina's by nature are mostly shy, I don't think many of them would like to have a man especially a foreigner listening in or joining in on their conversations, might make them feel a little uneasy and as I said only my opinion.

Edited June 7, 2016 by frosty (chris)

[Dave Hounddriver]

 

9 hours ago, chris49 said:

If you are using quotation marks you should be using the exact quote

 I disagree with you on this but I did go back and change the quote because of your request

Edited June 7, 2016 by Dave Hounddriver

[mogo51]

Still comes down to manners when they can speak English but choose not to do so - in your house. IMO.

[chris49]

16 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

 

 I disagree with you on this but I did go back and change the quote because of your request

Your disagreement is noted. Also noted you edited the original post one hour ago but the misquote is still there.

I'm mentioning again that I am misquoted because it misrepresents the content of my post.

Now that I mentioned it twice hopefully the members will read back to get the clear meaning of what I did post.