vigilantes - Is this the real beginning

[Jollygoodfellow]

Woman in drug watchlist shot dead in Batangas

LEMERY, Philippines (The Filipino Connection) – A 29-year-old woman pusher who was included in this town’s drug watchlist was killed in an ambush in Marimar Ville Subdivision, Barangay Bukal in Batangas on Wednesday evening, police said.

PCI Dwight Fonte, Lemery police chief, identified the victim as Luzviminda Groyon, a resident of Barangay Cahilan 2 in said town and native of Calamba City, Laguna.

Initial police investigation said that the victim was in the said subdivision at about 8:40 p.m. when she was shot by unidentified gunmen with an unknown type of firearm.

The suspects immediately escaped towards unknown direction aboard a gray Toyota Innova without plate number.

Responding cops said they found the victim lying face down and hog-tied with cloth. 

They also recovered from the crime scene a crumpled paper with a caption that states “Pusher Ako” (I’m a pusher), alluding to the victim, who is allegedly involved in the illegal drug trade.

Authorities said they were investigating illegal drug trade as motive for the killing as the victim is a known pusher who is included in the Lemery police’s drug watchlist.

Groyon was the third drug watchlist personality murdered in Lemery this month.

Gregorio Lasmarias died in an ambush by unidentified suspects in Barangay Maguihan on June 3 and Jonalyn Mondelo was also killed in the same barangay on June 6.

Barangays Anak-Dagat and Maguihan in Lemery were included among the list of drug trade hotspots in Batangas province by the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency in 2013.

http://www.philstar.com/nation/2016/06/23/1595869/woman-drug-watchlist-shot-dead-batangas

[robert k]

It sounds more like competitors than vigilantes to me. You don't tie up someone you just intend to kill anyway, it's a waste of time and rope.

[Jollygoodfellow]

10 minutes ago, robert k said:

It sounds more like competitors than vigilantes to me. You don't tie up someone you just intend to kill anyway, it's a waste of time and rope.

Could be but it proves a point on the fact that you can get away with murder by labeling someone as a pusher. 

[Jake]

13 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Could be but it proves a point on the fact that you can get away with murder by labeling someone as a pusher. 

Competitors?  Most probably, some of the members (suspects) of PNP and military are moonlighting in civilian clothes to get rid of the competition.  They are the financiers and protectors of prostitution, jueteng and drug trafficking.

Edited June 25, 2016 by Jake
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[robert k]

33 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Could be but it proves a point on the fact that you can get away with murder by labeling someone as a pusher. 

And you just explained why people wanted vigilantes. You automatically assume they will get away with it.

[Jollygoodfellow]

46 minutes ago, robert k said:

And you just explained why people wanted vigilantes. You automatically assume they will get away with it.

You can argue till you're blue in the face but even you know that the situation means that most likely they will get away with it.

[robert k]

2 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

You can argue till you're blue in the face but even you know that the situation means that most likely they will get away with it.

I think that describes most crimes I've heard of in the Philippines, sad to say. That most likely they will get away with it, whatever "it" is. If you are poor and the authorities are on to you, you move to another island. If you are rich you check into a hospital with a neck brace.

I didn't realize I was arguing, I thought I was making an observation in my first post then you replied quoting me. Then I quoted you and made another observation. Is that the definition of argue? Since I know your mind is made up, it would be foolhardy to try and convince you to change it. Like I said, just observations.

I always thought an argument had two or more opposing sides. You said they would get away with it and for the life of me I can't see where I said they would be caught?

[scott h]

8 hours ago, robert k said:

why people wanted vigilantes

"salvage operations" have been going on for years and years with very few being solved. Just because of the political environment recently are they being renamed vigilante killings and getting more press.

[Jake]

2 hours ago, scott h said:

"salvage operations" have been going on for years and years..............

A little bit of history, if I may.  Way before the Spaniards (for 300 years) came in, we have that old tribal mentality where boundaries were fought with exotic bladed weapons.  Where people, including young virgins disappear through the jungle.  Fast forward to present time and the boundaries are still established.  Why do we have so many different dialects?   

Now a new tribal chief is the head mofo and he means business.  It's the same old chit -- jungle rules apply here where disappearances and salvaging (assassinate in broad daylight, usually) will be sanctioned by the tribal chief.  

Please guys, watch your six -- always have a presence of mind, especially your family.

 

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[Tukaram (Tim)]

Everyone just needs to start carrying signs in their car "suspected drug dealer".  Then, if you get in an accident... just put the sign on the body.  No crime, no foul!