Forum Support Old55 Posted August 4, 2016 Forum Support Posted August 4, 2016 Duterte warns large business owners to play fair and stop contractualization or risk losing their business licences. This is badly needed the whole system needs reform and to be fair a business must be able to let employees go if with good reason it must work both ways. http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/08/01/Rodrigo-duterte-big-businesses-stop-contractualization.html 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogo51 Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) Whilst the President has only been in Office for 5 weeks, he certainly is not sitting still and doing nothing. He seems to be a person who does what he says he will do - now that is different when it comes to Politicians. I believe it has a lot to do with Trump's popularity - people don't care about 'political correctness' anymore, they want social and economic justice. Edited August 5, 2016 by mogo51 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyWay Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 I had to look it up to make sure I it was what I thought: http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Contractualization I agree that it is one of the big obstacles for expanding the middle class here. I'm not a big proponent of regulations on business, but the current practice is completely unfair. It is fine to have a probationary period without benefits or reduced benefits, but X % should be given permanent jobs with benefits. That should be a fairly high % with only the slackers being let go. That would result in a better trained, more motivated workforce, who will have more money to spend in the economy. The only downside I see is for the wealthy owners of SM, etc. Two guys from Abenson came to my house a while back and I gave them a ride back. I asked one how long he had worked there, and he said 2 years, but they all never had a raise in that time. We often complain about service here, and contractualization is one of the big reasons why many don't care. "Out of stock, sir". If employees have a bit of motivation, maybe that could change. Kudos to Duterte! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenie O. Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 Here in the province, many young people go off to the city and nearby companies and factories to work. The six month contract style is a real unfair hardship for them, because if there contract ends, they won't always get rehired. For the ones that do get rehired, there is paperwork and sometimes medical forms, X-rays etc. at out of pocket costs to them. Not to mention money lost while they acquire these required items. Speaking of young people, President Duterte has also been very aggressive on age discrimination, that limits many workers from the job pool. http://www.sunstar.com.ph/manila/local-news/2016/05/23/senate-passes-anti-age-discrimination-employment-bill-475211 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Queenie O. said: Speaking of young people, President Duterte has also been very aggressive on age discrimination, that limits many workers from the job pool. How do you mean Queenie, here in Dumaguete (the DOLE) they have lifted the Age bar and are making age Discrimination a Fineable offence Edited August 5, 2016 by Jack Peterson spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenie O. Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 Just now, Jack Peterson said: How do you mean Queenie, her in Dumaguete (the DOLE) they have lifted the Age bar and are making age Discrimination a Fineable offence I'm not sure if all companies here in Cebu are fined for not hiring workers over a certain age limit. I've heard local workers tell of not being rehired after reaching a certain age. It should be a fineable offence everywhere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Queenie O. Posted August 5, 2016 Popular Post Posted August 5, 2016 1 hour ago, mogo51 said: Whilst the President has only been in Office for 5 weeks, he certainly is not sitting still and doing nothing. He seems to be a person who does what he says he will do - now that is different when it comes to Politicians. I believe it has a lot to do with Trump's popularity - people don't care about 'political correctness' anymore, they want social and economic justice. For myself, I don't get the comparison between Duterte and Trump, but I see President Duterte as a man with clarity and understanding, who has the will to get things accomplished. So far I'm very impressed with his progress. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) I think what he is attempting is a good move but in my estimation he needs to be selective in his approach, if not then I fear he will create his own economic situation that may be difficult to reverse and loose the Lower wage structure that will inevitably cause massive price increases across the Board, Start with the Retail Business as most of the problems come from there. Then as a next move, go to other areas of Concern, he is never ever going to get rid of Contractualization as this is the way of the World Today but starting with this fixed contract issue and no out look for the end user is the way it has kept wages/overheads down, remove this and we will see that the PI could no longer be the place we have come to know, People need work at all ages and this issue of retail fit up for the Younger person has run it's course, (In my mind) But it will come at a Cost. For me, take people on for a 2/3 month Trial, if they are good give them a proper Job. but pay them a proper wage while on Probation, That way you can judge the ones you want/need. Of course this is just my Opinion Edited August 5, 2016 by Jack Peterson Spelling AGAIN 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 8 hours ago, Old55 said: Duterte warns large business owners to play fair and stop contractualization or risk losing their business licences. All good and dandy but expect prices to rise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support scott h Posted August 5, 2016 Forum Support Posted August 5, 2016 6 hours ago, OnMyWay said: The only downside I see is for the wealthy owners of SM, etc. Folks should be careful what they wish for, The owner will not sacrifice profit. If they are forced to hire "career employees" pay benefits etc. They will just make it up on the down side. Example? How many of us have commented on the seemingly huge number of employees in the department stores? Some of us like it, some don't. Do they need all of them? Of coarse not. You can bet your bottom dollar that if this goes through, it will be just like in the states, wandering around looking for some one to help you. I don't have a dog in this hunt, but me? I like the customer service as is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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