Duterte fires all appointees in lto-ltfrb

[Benington]

1 hour ago, Gratefuled said:

When it comes to appointing competent people to fill a position the "PETER PRINCIPLE" should be applied..

I don't think one can apply that principle in Philippine public services as getting into and on in those organisations is all about who you know. Therefore one can't assume that people were ever competent at any level, let alone reaching a level of incompetence!

I read an article on a particularly bad example of this recently in the Manila Times online. It's been taken down now, but it related how a woman with only a degree in Hospitality Management, but with family connections to a top politician, got onto the board of the GSIS and received an annual salary of P6m, which was the highest salary of the Board's non-executive directors and double that of the next highest.

What I notice here is that often outsiders are brought in to head up these agencies, often lawyers, though in the LTO example he was from the PNP. The intentions are good - avoid the corruption and croneyism that appointing from within can bring, and to have fresh ideas. I just wonder though if even those people have just reached their levels of incompetence?

Perhaps they can at least try appointing from other areas eg business? In business rising to the top is probably at least more of an indicator of competence than elsewhere. It has been tried in other countries, the problems being you have to find proven successful business people who are public spirited enough to take a pay cut and they must avoid conflicts of interest.

 

[mogo51]

15 hours ago, Benington said:

http://www.rappler.com/nation/135147-duterte-cabinet-lto-pms-pcoo

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/21/16/lto-chief-willing-to-comply-with-order-to-vacate-post 

Well, that is interesting as the person concerned at the LTO was just recently appointed! He said he was "One of the strictest in the police"

Maybe an early mistake by Duterte, but even if it was at least he has had the courage to remedy it quickly. By contrast Aquino appointed the previous LTO head back in January, but the person he chose was the head of the LTFRB, a sister organisation especially criticised as corrupt, and again in the spotlight now

I read the article as excluding his recent appointments.  I doubt he would appoint someone in June and sack them in August - they would not have had time to organise their corruption payments I would think???

[Benington]

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/808309/duterte-fires-ex-presidents-men

38 minutes ago, mogo51 said:

I read the article as excluding his recent appointments.  I doubt he would appoint someone in June and sack them in August - they would not have had time to organise their corruption payments I would think???

I wasn't thinking corruption. My first thought was that the LTO chap hadn't moved quickly enough to deal with corruption and inefficiency. If one reads the above report by The Inquirer of the President's utterances at the press conference there are contradictory statements about who should go at the LTO. To be fair the President's spokesman later clarified that he meant only appointees of the previous administration. And according to a previous post here the morning papers reiterate that. But the confusion was such that the LTO head certainly thought it applied to him, and he said he was ready to go.

It's good if the recently appointed incumbent doesn't have to clear his desk this morning. The LTO is a large organisation with problems, 7 weeks is not long enough to assess things and to come up with action plans.

A lot of issues came up at that long and late press conference and I just wonder why the President is using such events to announce policies. Usually they are used to explain policies.

I remember commenting on this back in June when the then President elect did much the same thing.

The Inquirer article on the press conference also has a fascinating sentence from the President, where he says that he wouldn't mind if a government clerk ran an affected government agency in the meantime. Interesting because some management theorists have actually proposed choosing people at random from lower positions in agencies to higher positions over the practice of just promoting from time servers at the top!

 

[Jake]

What about that douche bag in charge of the Manila airport.  Remember the bullet scam?

[Gratefuled]

3 hours ago, Benington said:

erhaps they can at least try appointing from other areas eg business? In business rising to the top is probably at least more of an indicator of competence than elsewhere. It has been tried in other countries, the problems being you have to find proven successful business people who are public spirited enough to take a pay cut and they must avoid conflicts of interest.

I agree. Most competent and proven successful people in business would not want to accept a lower paying job.

[Jack Peterson]

3 minutes ago, Gratefuled said:

Most competent and proven successful people in business would not want to accept a lower paying job.

 Hmmmmmmmmmmm depends on their Ego I guess

[Gratefuled]

15 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm depends on their Ego I guess

Oh, Really?  How so?  Leave a good job for a temporary one with lower pay scale. Government jobs are not at the top of the pay scale. No job security, either. I said, " most". 

 

18 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said:

 

 

[Jack Peterson]

4 minutes ago, Gratefuled said:

Oh, Really?  How so?  Leave a good job for a temporary one with lower pay scale. Government jobs are not at the top of the pay scale. No job security, either. I said, " most". 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Gratefuled said:

 

As I said, 

 Depends on Ego"s some still think the grass is greener on the other side and every one wants a government job or so it seems. as we have said many times before Only thinking of Today as tomorrow never comes

[chris49]

19 hours ago, scott h said:

According to the paper this morning, this mass firing only applies to P-noy appointees.

There you go.

And that has been par for the course here over many presidents, many generations.

[Jack Peterson]

32 minutes ago, chris49 said:

There you go.

And that has been par for the course here over many presidents, many generations.

 Jobs for the Boys( or gals EH?)