An Old Problem Comes Back.

[chris49]

19 hours ago, robert k said:

I am reasonably certain that Chris the OP had to sign an affidavit that the boy is his son. I think that would make it legally so and pure heck to undo, possibly impossible, even if the boy is not his biological son.

Yes signed that. And because the marriage was legal at that time, no questions were asked. They looked at my passport and entry visa to confirm I was in the Philippines at the time of conception. And that's about as far as they went.

[chris49]

19 hours ago, robert k said:

I am reasonably certain that Chris the OP had to sign an affidavit that the boy is his son. I think that would make it legally so and pure heck to undo, possibly impossible, even if the boy is not his biological son.

Yes signed that. And because the marriage was legal at that time, no questions were asked. They looked at my passport and entry visa to confirm I was in the Philippines at the time of conception. And that's about as far as they went.

[chris49]

22 hours ago, Jack Peterson said:

 Hmmmmmmmm Chris this is a Corker, Putting aside the parentage of the Boy for a moment, I am sure you will tell us if you genuinely thought that you were not the father but as it is you seem to have accepted That he is your son and I would Guess Your Name is on the Birth Certificate? I know that this is a Sensitive matter and am going to try and choose my words as carefully as I can, So having Read and Reread your opening Post I will if I may, just post my thoughts.

Chris, I am Going to presume that at the time he was born, You thought you were married? Now it Transpires that you were not and legally, never were? So I will ask, do you think the Original Passport, should have been Given and you mentioned US Citizenship, Had all this been known at the time would this Citizenship and Passport have been granted ?

It is not something I would like to Go through and I can only Hope the lad is Strong enough to take all this in and come out unscathed, When Marriage (Relationships) go to meltdown it is always the Kids that Suffer, I know Chris that you will do the right thing by him if you Can and I do Hope that all works out. Boy you have a Good Un in Gina mate cos I think I might take a beating if this came up like it has for you. Chin Up and take it day by day 

 

He's my son. We had a good relationship for 2 years before she started her shenanigans. He has mixed ethnicity, and quite clearly looks like me. And even if he wasn't I stand behind the legality of his birth, he's my legal child.

Since US Citizenship cannot be revoked unless by Act of Treason or renouncing the citizenship, he's an American Citizen. And if renouncing you have to be mentally stable so it's not that easy.

Gina does ok by me, I have no complaints. She will take me on toe to toe without playing dirty, and that's why I respect her and love her more. Like in this case, she takes most of it in without overreacting. Issues advice similar to what is given here in the thread.

Will it knock me down or has it?  Four years ago I was having bad dreams and nightmares over a few months. Gina talked me through that and I'm over it. I'm working for her and the kids now.

[Methersgate]

1 hour ago, chris49 said:

Yes signed that. And because the marriage was legal at that time, no questions were asked. They looked at my passport and entry visa to confirm I was in the Philippines at the time of conception. And that's about as far as they went.

I'm in just the same case with my oldest son - who isn't, biologically, mine at all, but he's 21, now,  and neither he nor I care a damn about it. 

[Sander Martin]

Have you asked her for the reason she wants the passport renewed?

[chris49]

On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 6:32 PM, Sander Martin said:

Have you asked her for the reason she wants the passport renewed?

Good question. But that's not the exact scenario.

She asked for the passport. She did not know it expired, but I informed her. Then I researched the US Embassy site for the requirements, so I informed her.

It's the middle of the school year, I don't think she's planning a quick visit to Disneyland. But if she was, I wouldn't surrender the passport for that. It doesn't fall under "best interest of the child". If the kid is 17-18, getting ready to go to USA, I will give it up. But it's up to her if she wants it renewed meantime.

And since that call around 10 days ago, she has not contacted me. She's a very hard woman, so I don't know what she's thinking.

[Sander Martin]

I would ask her for the reason if she calls again Chris. Just tell her that you are not planing any trips to Manila for the near future and you wont do a extra trip just to get the passport, when there is no real need for it.

[El Negrito]

On 8/25/2016 at 9:40 AM, Dave Hounddriver said:

Will she stop short of murder?  Do you know her well enough to be sure?  Many victims are wrong in their presumption that their ex would not do that.

It seems to me that you have nothing to gain by hindering that 6 year old boy from getting a new passport.  Unless you are worried she will take him to the USA and file for child support?

That's a valid worry, she could scam him for even more money by filing for child support.

[DonJuanMatus]

If this is a woman who hired men to physically beat you with a lead pipe then I would not have any contact with her ever again and certainly don't let her find out where you are.

God forbid, what if she hires someone to harm your new wife and kids?

You don't want to be in the mind of dangerous people like that.  I would stop talking with her.  She seems sweet now because she sees it as the first angle to getting what she wants.  After that doesn't work, she'll probably try a different method.

[chris49]

22 hours ago, DonJuanMatus said:

If this is a woman who hired men to physically beat you with a lead pipe then I would not have any contact with her ever again and certainly don't let her find out where you are.

God forbid, what if she hires someone to harm your new wife and kids?

You don't want to be in the mind of dangerous people like that.  I would stop talking with her.  She seems sweet now because she sees it as the first angle to getting what she wants.  After that doesn't work, she'll probably try a different method.

I agree on the sweetness. And the strategy of trying different methods.

One such strategy has been to offer me a visit to my son, and abruptly cancel the visit if she's not getting what she wants.

Bottom line again, she wants the kids passport and she wants it renewed, which needs my participation. She would also angle for me to pay for it. If ever I comply with that, I doubt if I will hear from her again.

I'm not giving up the passport.  My son is only 7. If he himself one day wants his own passport, I will give it to him. If she insists, we will start negotiating.