Building a Small Lobster Hatchery here in the Philippines

[Jack Peterson]

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[jamesmusslewhite]

8 hours ago, Jack Peterson said:

Well James to save my like Finger today o send you this   

[AlwaysRt]

Next time you are out doing a video can you show another update on the chicken coop and chickens?

[jamesmusslewhite]

11 hours ago, AlwaysRt said:

Next time you are out doing a video can you show another update on the chicken coop and chickens?

I am ready to add the second level as 80 hens are in a space a little tighter then I like. They tend to fight and pull out each others tail feathers when crowed. I actually planed on working on that project starting tomorrow. So give me a couple of days and I will add another post showing photos and I will take a video and upload it to YouTube and post it here to the thread. 

I like raising chickens and rabbits and hopefully I will also build a small rabbit hutch in the months to come. I believe in eating rabbits so you can raise your hens for egg production, let me tell members the logic behind my belief.

1) Pound for pound no farm animal produces more protein than rabbits by weight.

2) Rabbits breed and grow so quickly that one healthy pair of healthy does (females) can produce more than 600 pounds of meat in just one a year. Compare that to the dressed yield of 400 pounds for an average year-old beef steer.

3) Rabbits can also utilize feed more efficiently than cows and other farm animals do: According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, rabbits need only 4 pounds of feed to produce 1 pound of meat. Where as beef cattle need 7 pounds or more of feed to produce 1 pound of meat, according to reports issued by Michigan State University’s Department of Animal Science.

4) Rabbit meat can be substituted for chicken meat in all dishes and can be fried, stewed, scurried, grilled, baked or even in a tasty adobo rabbit is a leaner heather protein than chicken. I love both rabbit and shark meat in my regular diet as both are lean healthy proteins.

Now what if you raise rabbits to eat and raise hens for meat or eggs?

Lets look at the math and check if my logic is financially sound.

Sell the hen at a market brings a sells price of 140php-180php.

Then consider an average hen lays 260 eggs a year and will consistently lay for two years. Sell the eggs from that chicken for two years will yield 520 eggs @ 6php each will yield 3,120php. Then after two years you can still sell that fat mature chicken for market price or eat the hen yourself.

Now lets take it one step further and you raise the hen for the eggs to produce live chicks? If you incubate eggs the hatchlings (chicks) sell for 25-30php each. So 520 egg hatch and the chicks sell for only 25php each will yield 13,000php.

So it just makes more sense that during the two years the hen is laying eggs, you can simply stuff yourself full of rabbit meat while being able to pocket all the profits made on the hens. 10 rabbit does (female) and two happy males, plus 200 hens and 10 horny roosters and you can help keep a floor freezer full while earning yourself a nice tiddly little nest egg. Just a thought.  

also you can still sell the rabbit meat and the bunnies.

I know that my mom always told me to stop playing with my food, but their just so cute and fuzzy....

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2016 by jamesmusslewhite

[AlwaysRt]

11 hours ago, jamesmusslewhite said:

I am ready to add the second level as 80 hens are in a space a little tighter then I like. They tend to fight and pull out each others tail feathers when crowed. I actually planed on working on that project starting tomorrow. So give me a couple of days and I will add another post showing photos and I will take a video and upload it to YouTube and post it here to the thread. 

I like raising chickens and rabbits and hopefully I will also build a small rabbit hutch in the months to come. I believe in eating rabbits so you can raise your hens for egg production, let me tell members the logic behind my belief.

Great, thanks!

I understand your rabbit logic but can't get over my fear... Fear of rabbits??? Yup sorta. Was on an exercise at Camp Pendleton way back, we caught rabbit for protein but no fires allowed so we ate them fresh, still warmish. Had food poisoning for almost 10 days before I could eat normal again. I have eaten cooked rabbit a couple times since then, but it scares me to do so because that haunting memory returns. 

[jamesmusslewhite]

7 hours ago, AlwaysRt said:

Great, thanks!

I understand your rabbit logic but can't get over my fear... Fear of rabbits??? Yup sorta. Was on an exercise at Camp Pendleton way back, we caught rabbit for protein but no fires allowed so we ate them fresh, still warmish. Had food poisoning for almost 10 days before I could eat normal again. I have eaten cooked rabbit a couple times since then, but it scares me to do so because that haunting memory returns. 

Sounds like your instructors should have been beaten with a rock because they were obviously too damn stupid. Wild rabbit if not cooked can put a real hurt locker on you quick. You got off lucky as it sounds like e.coli which can double you over and give you bloody Hershey-squirts 5 to 10 days, but it can also destroy red blood cells and given you acute kidney failure. You snare them or spear them and you ware gloves or wrap them in cloth and take them to a flowing water source and thoroughly wash with disinfectant soap to wash away any feces before you even handle them to skin and field-dress the little long-eared rodents. A real survival specialist would have taught you that and they would have also showed you how to thin-sliced, salted and sun-drying the meat instead of eating the flesh raw.

Salmonella would have gone easier on you and not hit you for so long and Trichinellosis would have hit you in a week or two later and slap you down hard for up to eight weeks. Plus in the heat season wild rabbit can have a worm parasite 'wolves' under their skin and you have to check that they don't have white spots on their livers. Then there is still tularemia to deal with. Wild rabbit really needs to be cooked until well done. I would kill a rabbit and thin-slice the meat to use as bait, then use a thin wire sharpened and shaped into a treble or a bent sharpened belt catch from a buckle and fishing line made from unbranded lengths of para-cord. You could use one little rabbit or snake to catch a lot of fish and fish is easier and more healthy to eat raw and easy to sun dry without spoiling in the heat.

I learn more useful little tricks as a young heathen running around in South Texas thickets and bayou back country then I ever learned from military survival courses. When I was a youngster we would make rock slings out of bandanas and stone birds and bull frogs to eat and they are much safer to eat raw then rabbit, coon, squirrel, armadillo or opossum. You did not want to set a fire out there as the smoke scent spooked the game your hunting for miles around.

[jamesmusslewhite]

 

If you want to start to raise rabbits and are not sure how to build a rabbit hutch then here are two good sites you might find of interest.

http://www.wikihow.c...-a-Rabbit-Hutch

 

There are thousands of ways to design and build rabbit hutches.but this video is the closest I have found to the style I plan on building. I like a pitched bamboo/nepa roof instead of a lumber/tin because it will be lightweight and cooler inside the pens than the tin roofing but I will build a 2-level with metal poop-pans under each pen as well as a back door so it will be easy to clean and tend to the back individual nest compartments in each pen. I will also have roll-down tarpaulin side covers for the rainy days to insure the metal feed trays on the front doors, inside the pens and the metal lined poop-trays stay dry at all times.

[AlwaysRt]

54 minutes ago, jamesmusslewhite said:

Sounds like your instructors should have been beaten with a rock because they were obviously too damn stupid.

No instructors, was a two week training exercise and the Captain had a great idea to "toughen us up". I'm basically a Saint Louis City boy so while I could go out in the country and not get bit, stung, or eaten by something I had no idea about how to cook what. I was more than happy to eat C-rats, particularly any with the pound cake as I would take the hot coco mix, sugar pack and a little water to make a chocolate iced cupcake, a dream in the field.

[jamesmusslewhite]

10 hours ago, AlwaysRt said:

No instructors, was a two week training exercise and the Captain had a great idea to "toughen us up". I'm basically a Saint Louis City boy so while I could go out in the country and not get bit, stung, or eaten by something I had no idea about how to cook what. I was more than happy to eat C-rats, particularly any with the pound cake as I would take the hot coco mix, sugar pack and a little water to make a chocolate iced cupcake, a dream in the field.

You would have loved being on Okinawa then as the chow halls there regularly feed us fried rabbit and  baked shark do to their desire to feed troops clean sources of high protein and an even larger desire to be as cheap as humanly possible. Now Navy boys eat good. One of the best chowlines I ever experienced was on the USS Blue Ridge where the squibbies were actually complaining that they were being fed grilled prime-cut steaks again and actually had fresh yeast-raised dinner rolls and choices for deserts. 

[earthdome]

On 10/4/2016 at 7:28 PM, jamesmusslewhite said:

Now Navy boys eat good. One of the best chowlines I ever experienced was on the USS Blue Ridge where the squibbies were actually complaining that they were being fed grilled prime-cut steaks again and actually had fresh yeast-raised dinner rolls and choices for deserts. 

Continuing off topic. At US Navy bootcamp in Orlando we were regularly fed fried rabbit. But once I got to the submarine it was steak once a week and the mess decks crew were in big trouble if the ice cream machine was empty and they weren't in the process of making more.