When the trust is broken

[sonjack2847]

I have been using my Landlords nephew to do a few things for me. I was beginning to trust him,I even bought him a bottle of Tanduai for his birthday. Well I asked him how much it would be to get a table made from coco lumber. The table was for the outside so a rough finish was ok. He gave me a written quote for 2x2 from and plywood top and shelf from 10mm ply. He brought the table and the frame is2x1 and the ply is 3mm. He had been drinking(obviously with my money) so I let it go I was going talk to him later. My wife said no let it go just dont use him again.I followed this advice. When he goes past our house my wife says he looks guilty,I told her he is not guilty he is embarrassed as he knows he has messed up a good thing and broken the trust we had built up over 5 months.He will never get anything from us again not even my cast off clothes which iI have have been sharing amongst the locals.Oh well will have to try to find somebody else to trust. I had a tradesman I could trust in Dalaguete so maybe I can find one here.

[Jack Peterson]

33 minutes ago, sonjack2847 said:

I had a tradesman I could trust in Dalaguete so maybe I can find one here.

 Kev, most are great until you show Kindness, then many see this as a weakness, you know my story on Choy 

[sonjack2847]

1 hour ago, Jack Peterson said:

 Kev, most are great until you show Kindness, then many see this as a weakness, you know my story on Choy 

Yes I know Jack maybe one day I will learn.If pigs fly maybe they will learn.

[Old55]

Second chance? ?All of us have screwed up at one time or another. Have a kind talk with him so he knows if it happens again ⚰️☢️

[Dave Hounddriver]

28 minutes ago, Old55 said:

Second chance? ?All of us have screwed up at one time or another. Have a kind talk with him so he knows if it happens again ⚰️☢️

I'm inclined to agree with Jack that many locals see kindness as a weakness.  When a second chance is given the person often thinks you must be really foolish to give them another chance and then they ask for more money, shorter hours, more benefits and less work.  Seriously, it may sound like a joke but it really works that way for a large number of workers.

I had a guy working for me and he really screwed up on his estimate so I wanted to give him more money but I grit my teeth and paid what was due because, had I treated him kindly the next job I need him for would not be done as well.  He knows he has to learn by his mistakes, as we also learn by ours.

[mogo51]

Although only a sometimes visitor at the moment to Philippines, I have had the same thing happen to me a couple of time with drivers etc.  

Sad but true, just have to follow the tough line.

 

[sonjack2847]

He knows he did wrong as he has Swiss blood in him and  the people I know around  here have so far been honest.

I agree with Dave and Mogo that the hard line has to be followed.As for talking to him Old my wife says no, I want to but she knows best.I will put it down to experience.

[Queenie O.]

Many workers that we hire don't do the work as one would like. Incompetence and careless work even with good pay is a problem here too sometimes. That's one reason I often see my husband out painting something or learning to build a bench for the first time.

If he has done well in the past, maybe you should talk to him. There could have been some confusion at the lumber place about wood availability and he just screwed up this time. Of course if his services are not worth it  to justify talking to him about it,  just don't bother and move on, and choose not to use him again.

The old saying "Good help is hard to find" rings true in some cases everywhere.

[sonjack2847]

2 hours ago, Queenie O. said:

Many workers that we hire don't do the work as one would like. Incompetence and careless work even with good pay is a problem here too sometimes. That's one reason I often see my husband out painting something or learning to build a bench for the first time.

If he has done well in the past, maybe you should talk to him. There could have been some confusion at the lumber place about wood availability and he just screwed up this time. Of course if his services are not worth it  to justify talking to him about it,  just don't bother and move on, and choose not to use him again.

The old saying "Good help is hard to find" rings true in some cases everywhere.

2x2 coco lumber and 1/2 inch ply is available at all times they ripped me off plain and simple. I have heard and witnessed many instances of the workers doing it their way and it frustrates me after being in construction for nearly 40 years. We had blocked drains the other week and it took them 3 days to sort out. My wife asked me how long it would take in the Uk and I said about 2 hours. I know we have better tools than but why don`t they invest in some. Maybe they just like to take their time to get more pay.In fact they made the blockage worse on the first day and 5pm off they trot no care that we have smell all over the house and a big hole in the floor of the front yard.

Queenie if I thought it would do any good I would talk to him.At least he showed his true colours on a small table and now when/if I build a house he will be nowhere near it.

[RBM]

Its sad Kev how ever must agree with Jack.  We have pretty much confirmed the ...no good turn...scenario but...occasionally one has a nice surprise.

For some years we have been supporting an old ex pea nut vendor, long complicated story how ever was of no surprise when she recently passed over. During this time were in Davao. Upon return  were fully expecting to handle  burial expenses.....The sister told us no....you have already done enough. These rare but heart stoppers reconfirm to us faith in some of the people. Although having said this we basically now limit help to directly schooling kids whom otherwise would have no schooling.