Hiding to Avoid US Child Support

[BurnedMama]

4 minutes ago, Old55 said:

His passport will not be renewed. If he got a passport in 2008 he has two years left until it must be renewed.

Just so you know some of the Expat members here are married to younger Filipinos. Agree or not we don't judge that here.

My opinion... you're ex should support his children but I don't think there is any action you can take while he resides in Philippines 

I make no judgment on any one.   I was not commending my ex for his marriage either.  I don't care what he does in his personal life.  I think he has residency there now so Passport wont matter one way of the other.    I was just hoping someone there that knows the laws of the country might give me some useful guidance.  But thanks 

[robert k]

2 hours ago, BurnedMama said:

I make no judgment on any one.   I was not commending my ex for his marriage either.  I don't care what he does in his personal life.  I think he has residency there now so Passport wont matter one way of the other.    I was just hoping someone there that knows the laws of the country might give me some useful guidance.  But thanks 

I think he would need a passport no matter what excepting he achieved Filipino citizenship (not easy to come by), not residency.

 

Edited October 31, 2016 by robert k

[BurnedMama]

Just now, robert k said:

I think he would need a passport no matter what excepting he achieved Filipino citizenship (not easy to come by), not residency.

 

Thank You very much . I will look into it.  I figured once you had residency you most likely had a Filipino passport

[Balisidar]

I think your best bet would be to consult a lawyer who specializes in international law or agreements with countries regarding dead beat dads.  Another area to look into would be US housing and human services office of the inspector General.  A private investigator would only help in actually locating the guy (at extreme cost I'm sure) but you'd still need a lawyer and/or the government for enforcement.

 

Good luck.

Edited October 31, 2016 by Balisidar

[scott h]

20 hours ago, BurnedMama said:

get someone in the Philippines

Hi Mama. My take on this is your in for an up hill battle. Like others have said, I doubt seriously that your ex is not a Philippine citizen, for no other reason than that there is a 10 year residency requirement. If he is legally married to a Philippine citizen he is most likely a legal resident. When I applied for mine I did need my passport and will need it for renewal in a few years.

I personally would not try to hire someone to look for him remotely, you are just asking to get taken advantage of.

If this cat is living under the radar, the Philippines is a very easy place to disappear. I have lived here going on 5 years now and the only time I have been asked for ID is when opening up a bank account (with my wife) or some other "official" transaction. I carry my drivers license only when driving and have never been asked for ID for day to day existence.

I suggest you use the old adage of "Follow the Money!" Unless he brought a suitcase full of cash with him when he moved, like most of us he most likely has a bank account somewhere and transfers the money here as needed. If so there most likely is an electronic foot print some where. If you can find that then let the USA authorities take over.

If a guy has cash and doesn't cause problems he theoretically would never be found.

 Here is a last minute thought!!!! How is this guys health? If he has medical insurance, and is using one of the better medical facilities with insurance he might be leaving an electronic foot print someplace. But again I would suggest using some sort of investigator back home.

Good luck to you

 

 

[jon1]

I would start here http://www.acf.hhs.gov/css/resource/overview-of-the-passport-denial-program As others have said, once he tries to renew his passport it will be revoked and he will be forced to return to the US to get it reinstated after he pays off the debt. 

It is not a good spot to be in.

[Nephi]

4 hours ago, jon1 said:

I would start here http://www.acf.hhs.gov/css/resource/overview-of-the-passport-denial-program As others have said, once he tries to renew his passport it will be revoked and he will be forced to return to the US to get it reinstated after he pays off the debt. 

It is not a good spot to be in.

Jon has the best info here that I can see. The only difference of oppinion I have is that when his passport is canceled or not renewed for past payments not made he will simply be stuck here and unable to leave. He will be in overstay status with immigration. That said, law here means very little and enforcement just does not happen. Now, if he is wanted in the US for murder, kidnapping, armed robbery or the like, the US can ask them here to try to locate, arrest, and send him back to the US. But for child support in my opinion it is a lost cause. This is an underdeveloped 3rd world country and as stated, an attorney will take your money with no results. It also would be very unwise (safety wise) to NOT attempt to come here and find him on your own. His new family, if he has one, could do most anything to protect him and your very life could be in danger. I'm a guy that has been married in the US before and now married with a great family and kids here in the islands. But I have no use for dead-beat dads that do that kind of thing. I just think that what you are trying to do is noble and in most cases right. But here--would be a lost cause.

 

 

 

With the very best of wishes in life with your children,

Nephi

Edited November 9, 2016 by Nephi
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[Reboot]

I dislike deadbeats as much as anyone but it seems to me someone got too greedy so the bird flew. Sometimes it's better not to demand too much, then at least you get something. Otherwise...the bird migrates to somewhere where you get nothing but he Lives Like A King On $1000 Per Month. And with a local woman too. How much you want to bet he doesn' t already have other kids running around? And they're a bargain by comparison. Plus it's 3 to 1 odds you initiated the divorce because that is the statistic. Woman choose. Man pay. 

$300k in 10 years...will you find him? 

Edited November 9, 2016 by Reboot

[PaulB]

Hi

 

In my opinion to come on a forum like this to try and track someone down who is an alleged dead beat dad is like trying to find a personal email in Hilary's inbox!

If you are serious seek the correct support from the correct people and do the dirty laundry in private.

Just my point and no harm intended but better places to find the right help.

Good luck.

 

Paul