Jack Peterson Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 In the end though, I am from an unarmed person country (and Happy to stay that way) and living in a Foreigners can't own a Gun Country so let's move on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Glatt Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Jack Peterson said: No but the fact is it is now Legal that is my point. If he uses it in a Crime then that is another thing, If he gets a shakedown and he is not legal he has a problem but if he gets a shakedown when Legal he will smile But he is a felon, not allowed to carry. In most reasonable jurisdictions not allowed to vote. If they would only not allow social service for X years he might rejoin society, or ot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert k Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said: No but the fact is it is now Legal that is my point. If he uses it in a Crime then that is another thing, If he gets a shakedown and he is not legal he has a problem but if he gets a shakedown when Legal he will smile Jack, you are placing the crime on the inanimate object again. It is already illegal to carry a firearm in the commission of a crime. You are ALSO convicting Joe Bloggs without a trial? Are you not? You have said he is of good reputation? If you know he is a criminal, have you given numerous anonymous tips to the police? Edited June 7, 2017 by robert k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Just now, Gerald Glatt said: But he is a felon, not allowed to carry. In most reasonable jurisdictions not allowed to vote. If they would only not allow social service for X years he might rejoin society, or ot That my Friend was the point originally, he is not a convicted felon but a Double life guy Good side and Bad Side the Bad had a gun unlicensed now the good side gets a license which the Bad side can use 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert k Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gerald Glatt said: But he is a felon, not allowed to carry. In most reasonable jurisdictions not allowed to vote. If they would only not allow social service for X years he might rejoin society, or ot Gerald, Jack appears to be saying Joe Bloggs has never been caught yet, has been convicted of nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said: so let's move on That would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewool Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 I would hate to see this happen here in England, yes times are changing but i think we have it about right here, well other then those who are being watched should be tagged and have a curfew , but thats a different story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, stevewool said: I would hate to see this happen here in England I cannot say if they are armed, but a look on their Facebook page says you have a civilian militia there, a branch of the Guardians. https://www.facebook.com/ukguardianangels/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysRt Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said: That my Friend was the point originally, he is not a convicted felon but a Double life guy Good side and Bad Side the Bad had a gun unlicensed now the good side gets a license which the Bad side can use I think this has turned into a risk assessment. a)If a bad guy gets caught with a gun only and owning is illegal he is caught, if owning is legal he is not. b)How much risk is there to the general population if a bad guy is carrying a gun but not currently involved in a crime? None, he is not bothering anyone. c)How much additional risk is there if he is illegally carrying during a crime? None, even where carry is legal, carrying during a crime is illegal and he always carried his illegal gun during crimes anyway. d)do criminals like the ability of the general population to legally have a gun? No, the risk of criminal activity has increased from almost zero to 'damn I can be shot' Legalizing cary is a benefit to the general public and a risk to criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 45 minutes ago, AlwaysRt said: Legalizing cary is a benefit to the general public and a risk to criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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