Tower fire- Passing the buck UK style

[mogo51]

On 6/15/2017 at 5:54 PM, Gratefuled said:

ACROPHOBIA?????

If the Acrophobia don't get you, the fear of height will!!! lol.

[earthdome]

I don't have the link now but I recall a story about the fire which stated that the new cladding put on the building during renovations was chosen because it was a "green" technology that would save energy and was known to not be fire safe. That decision was made by the local politicians/bureaucrats who were responsible for the building. They chose energy efficiency and "green" technologies over fire safe.

[jpbago]

A fridge sparked the fire and the cladding fueled the blaze.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/police-considering-manslaughter-charges-in-deadly-london-tower-fire/article35443832/

[sonjack2847]

7 hours ago, earthdome said:

I don't have the link now but I recall a story about the fire which stated that the new cladding put on the building during renovations was chosen because it was a "green" technology that would save energy and was known to not be fire safe. That decision was made by the local politicians/bureaucrats who were responsible for the building. They chose energy efficiency and "green" technologies over fire safe.

According to what I read the supplier did not follow the spec the council gave them.There are some saying manslaughter charges may be brought.

[Dave Hounddriver]

4 hours ago, jpbago said:

 

A fridge sparked the fire

 

Thank you.  I had not yet heard and its relieving to know it was not deliberately set.

[sonjack2847]

Police mull manslaughter charges over London blaze
 Dario THUBURN,AFP News 4 hours ago 
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Manslaughter charges could be filed over London's deadly tower blaze, police said Friday after finding that exterior cladding on the building had failed safety tests and that the fire started with a faulty fridge.

The government ordered immediate checks on the Hotpoint FF175BP fridge freezer model blamed for the June 14 blaze in west London, which left 79 people presumed dead.

Hotpoint-branded fridge freezers were manufactured by Indesit between 2006 and 2009, before Indesit was bought by current owner Whirlpool.

"We are addressing this as a matter of utmost urgency and assisting the authorities in any way we can," US-based Whirlpool said in a statement.

It also urged owners of Hotpoint fridge freezer models FF175BP or FF175BG to contact them "so that we can register their details and contact them with further information".

In an update on the investigation, Fiona McCormack from London's Metropolitan Police said: "We are looking at every criminal offence from manslaughter onwards."

Referring to the tiles and insulation on the outside of the building, which have been widely blamed for the rapid spread of the flames, she said: "All I can say at the moment is they don't pass any safety tests."

- Charity song hits top spot -

The cladding was installed on the 24-storey council-owned Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, as part of a refurbishment completed last year.

It has prompted a wider review of social housing which has identified at least 600 towers in England with similar cladding.

McCormack said police had also established that the fire started with a faulty fridge, identifying the Hotpoint model.

She said the model had not been subject to any product recall.

McCormack said police were investigating companies involved in the building and refurbishment of the tower, and possible "health and safety and fire safety offences".

She said all "complete bodies" had been removed and there was "a terrible reality that we may not find or identify everyone who died due to the intense heat.

"We have been in Grenfell Tower, from top to bottom, last week," she explained.

"Next week, we will be installing a lift to the outside of the building to assist. But our forensic search may not be complete until the end of the year."

She also repeated calls for any members of the public with information about people who may have been in the tower at the time of the blaze to contact the police.

Police fear the toll may be higher because some residents may have been living in the tower illegally.

"Our forensic search may not be complete until the end of the year," McCormack added.

Prime Minister Theresa May stressed on Thursday that all Grenfell victims, regardless of their immigration status, would be able to access whatever help they need.

A charity single released to raise money for survivors of the fire reached the top spot in the British charts on Friday after selling more than 170,000 copies.

The track is a cover of Simon and Garfunkel's "Bridge Over Troubled Water" by 50 artists including Stormzy, Emeli Sande, Robbie Williams and Paloma Faith.

[earthdome]

22 hours ago, sonjack2847 said:

According to what I read the supplier did not follow the spec the council gave them.There are some saying manslaughter charges may be brought.

Of course we all know that when something like this happens there will be a great deal of finger pointing. Of course some of those pointing the finger of blame should do so while looking in a mirror.

[sonjack2847]

2 hours ago, earthdome said:

Of course we all know that when something like this happens there will be a great deal of finger pointing. Of course some of those pointing the finger of blame should do so while looking in a mirror.

Yes so very true,it`s called deflection when they try to hide (by a smokescreen) their part in a situation.

[jpbago]

Dubai has had 2 high rise fires recently, last April and in New Year's eve, 2015.

Dramatic fires have hit skyscrapers in Dubai and other fast-growing cities in the United Arab Emirates in recent years. Building and safety experts have cited a popular type of cladding covering the buildings that can be highly flammable.

Authorities say they have changed fire safety rules to address the danger, but have offered few details.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/02/dramatic-scenes-fire-engulfs-skyscraper-downtown-dubai/