Myth or fact on deportation

[Nephi]

14 minutes ago, Rooster said:

I witnessed a deportation several years ago at Manila Airport. 

I was at the gate, waiting to get on the plane to go back to the states and locals wearing black polo type shirts with immigration in white on the back had a Foreigner handcuffed. All where sitting a few rows ahead of me. It was bizarre that several other locals waiting for the same flight approached immigration, showed an Id and had conversations with them.  (I assumed they were asking why he was being deported). They escorted the foreigner on the plane & waited until it was ready to take off then they exited the plane & we took off. The guy was no longer handcuffed and appeared to be just another passenger on the flight back. 

Guess it does happen. Wonder too who pays for the flight. Either way these people are gone and will likely remain on the arrival blacklist.

[Rooster]

27 minutes ago, Nephi said:

It should be noted here that our country does not control who leaves the US for travel nor do they have the right under the law to do so. Freedom of movement is guaranteed in the United States constitution and includes the freedom to leave if we choose to. On that same line, the US government has no right to know or even ask where we are going etc. We also have a right to privacy. Our laws and freedoms are good but at times there are those that will take advantage of a good thing.

I used to think the same but when is the last time you departed the states to come here. The past 3 years that I departed during my annual trip,  ICE had sting operations at the gate where we enter the plane. They were randomly asking for ID/Passports,  asking why you are traveling there, etc. They stopped everyone who had a child with them.  Perhaps others who experienced the same can share their experience.  

[AlwaysRt]

31 minutes ago, Nephi said:

Exactly right. If not mistaken, we, Americans, are the largest foreign nationality to visit here each year. 72 out that many is not bad at all but still is too bad there are a few bad eggs.

It should be noted here that our country does not control who leaves the US for travel nor do they have the right under the law to do so. Freedom of movement is guaranteed in the United States constitution and includes the freedom to leave if we choose to. On that same line, the US government has no right to know or even ask where we are going etc. We also have a right to privacy. Our laws and freedoms are good but at times there are those that will take advantage of a good thing.

Yes, a small percentage - but still a larger number than I would like. Unfortunately, the number probably should be much bigger. The more idiot/a**h*le foreigners (regardless of their nationality) that make it into the country, the more guilt by association we have to endure.

[Nephi]

7 minutes ago, Rooster said:

I used to think the same but when is the last time you departed the states to come here. The past 3 years that I departed during my annual trip,  ICE had sting operations at the gate where we enter the plane. They were randomly asking for ID/Passports,  asking why you are traveling there, etc. They stopped everyone who had a child with them.  Perhaps others who experienced the same can share their experience.  

That's a new one on me but if ICE was the agency doing this I would be comfortable with it if I were traveling at that time. Sounds to me they may have had info on child trafficking maybe? But at least they were doing their job and was probably a short term search. I have been here in the islands for 15 years now so looks like I'm missing all the fun.

[Nephi]

9 minutes ago, AlwaysRt said:

Yes, a small percentage - but still a larger number than I would like. Unfortunately, the number probably should be much bigger. The more idiot/a**h*le foreigners (regardless of their nationality) that make it into the country, the more guilt by association we have to endure.

That really is true. These bad eggs give us all a bad name and even more reason for us to be careful what we do and who we spend time with.

[JJReyes]

(Please clean. We are in a remote section of Idaho and our connection is constantly being interrupted.)

Edited May 23, 2018 by JJReyes

[JJReyes]

3 hours ago, Rooster said:

I used to think the same but when is the last time you departed the states to come here. The past 3 years that I departed during my annual trip,  ICE had sting operations at the gate where we enter the plane. They were randomly asking for ID/Passports,  asking why you are traveling there, etc. They stopped everyone who had a child with them.  Perhaps others who experienced the same can share their experience.  

Reyes is a very common name in Spanish, similar to Smith. Add to that my first name which is the equivalent of John.  The gate agent at Manila International Airport sometimes has to contact aviation security. They check my passport, realize that I don't reside in the Philippines, issue a clearance slip to the gate agent.  Someone with the same or similar name is on the checklist.

Recently, we returned from Mexico through a Los Angeles Airport terminal for incoming flights from Central and South America.  I got flagged, first time this happens, possibly because of my Hispanic name.  The immigration officer asked a few additional questions. Usually, they just wave us through.

 

[lobojohn]

3 hours ago, Rooster said:

I used to think the same but when is the last time you departed the states to come here. The past 3 years that I departed during my annual trip,  ICE had sting operations at the gate where we enter the plane. They were randomly asking for ID/Passports,  asking why you are traveling there, etc. They stopped everyone who had a child with them.  Perhaps others who experienced the same can share their experience.  

re ICE ..  a retired marine acquaintance related a story concerning his experience with ICE upon his arrival in the USA a few years ago. they questioned him as to why he was living in the fils and even suggested he was a traitor to the US for leaving to live in the fils. he was shocked to say the least, but managed to go through w/o ruffling any feathers. 

i have no plans to ever return, but i wonder if others are being treated this way now. its gotten to be a mad mad world indeed. 

[lobojohn]

4 hours ago, Nephi said:

Guess it does happen. Wonder too who pays for the flight. Either way these people are gone and will likely remain on the arrival blacklist.

from jollygoodfellow...  the airline has to pay. 

The airlines as its their responsibility to make sure you have an onward ticket before boarding. 

[Nephi]

1 hour ago, lobojohn said:

re ICE ..  a retired marine acquaintance related a story concerning his experience with ICE upon his arrival in the USA a few years ago. they questioned him as to why he was living in the fils and even suggested he was a traitor to the US for leaving to live in the fils. he was shocked to say the least, but managed to go through w/o ruffling any feathers. 

i have no plans to ever return, but i wonder if others are being treated this way now. its gotten to be a mad mad world indeed. 

I use to go back on trips. Entered in either San Francisco or LA. Never a problem at all. Like you though I will not be going back again.