Can we really Save the Planet

[Kuya John]

3 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

.  Do you really think there is anyone there who is willing and able to save the planet???

Now here's a thought

[GeoffH]

4 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

Y2K has already been mentioned.  Throughout history there have been so many occasions when "everyone" thought one way until someone came along to show them another way.

I honestly don't understand how people can still believe that those on the current bandwagon are infallible.  I wish more people would use their own brains instead of relying on what someone else said and thought.  But that's just me.  I'm just trying to show you the other side.  All these brilliant people could be right, or an asteroid could make us extinct next year.  In my opinion, all we can do is live our own lives without thinking we are all brilliant enough to save the planet.  I mean take a look at the leadership of the world.  Do you really think there is anyone there who is willing and able to save the planet???

Y2K was a real problem, I spent a lot of time fixing and updating PCs.  It was fixed and because the problems were fixed now some (mistaken) people think it was a hoax *shrug*.

As for deciding myself or believing others I have a science based education and I have a good friend who worked for the CSIRO, he was kind enough to help me understand the computer modelling that supports the man made CO2 global climate change and I made my own opinion up about that.

But I don’t expect others to take my word simply because I’m not that type of scientist so I don’t talk about my opinion (because it is only mine), instead I talk about what the experts in the area believe.  And when there is consensus in the modern science community they are much more often right than wrong.

As for world leaders being willing to do anything substantial that’s a completely different issue, most world leaders care more about votes than long term projects.

 

Edited January 18, 2020 by GeoffH

[bastonjock]

We can discuss the causes or blame for the climatic changes that are happening right now ,but I think that most people will agree that climate change is taking place 

There is evidence in abundance that this has happened in the past , archaeologists have found many civilizations that have foundered due to natural disasters

How many of us can survive if the sea level rises another meter or two ? Do we start building houses on stilts ? What about food ? Some kids and adults think that food only comes in packets , whilst I appreciate that there are many ex military on here , we have come so far from the food source that 95% of people could not even successfully plant a potato 

As the earth warms up will we be able to utilise former frozen wasteland to grow food ? 

The economic problems alone are frightening,  the west will loose its number 1 financial spot 

When I look at my grandaughter I wonder what she will have to deal with .

I for one have more questions than answers 

[Dave Hounddriver]

1 hour ago, bastonjock said:

I think that most people will agree that climate change is taking place 

That's a fact.

[Marvin Boggs]

On 1/18/2020 at 5:04 PM, Dave Hounddriver said:

I mean take a look at the leadership of the world.  Do you really think there is anyone there who is willing and able to save the planet???

They are just brilliant enough to panic the masses and then milk them of all their money to save the world. 

People have such short memories.  As I've stated earlier, every 10 years or so there is a new panic that is going to wipe us all out.  The fact those orgs blaming C02 when they don't have a clue how it works is pretty telling.  Theories, trends, statistics, etc. but they will look at you with a straight face and claim we only have 11 years left to save the planet.  In the end, the problem is YOU, little people.  You breathe too much, you eat too much, you consume too much.  You need to be confined in dense cities and only given bicycles to ride, so the earth can be wide open spaces for our overlords.  Don't worry, they'll be happy to tell ya what to eat, what to think, how to act, and whom to please for your good social credit score. 

Meanwhile, I'll be living in the Philippines and loving it!     

 

[Tommy T.]

I saw this today:

Somehow it seemed appropriate. Good luck, Planet Earth!

[Mike J]

38 minutes ago, Tommy T. said:

I saw this today:

Somehow it seemed appropriate. Good luck, Planet Earth!

Catch and release in the Philippines = catch a fish, release a plastic bag. 

[Guy F.]

TL;DR

Making an appearance to register displeasure with those who say China is the biggest culprit and they are not doing anything about it , so why should we?

Suppose we were all on a sinking boat and the Chinese people refused to help with bailing. Would it be smart for us to stop bailing? Climate change is a similar situation. We should all do what we can.

[Tommy T.]

50 minutes ago, Guy F. said:

Making an appearance to register displeasure with those who say China is the biggest culprit and they are not doing anything about it , so why should we?

Suppose we were all on a sinking boat and the Chinese people refused to help with bailing. Would it be smart for us to stop bailing? Climate change is a similar situation. We should all do what we can.

Exactly. We should be in the vanguard (USA and other western and European cultures). China and India and other countries are just catching up to our wastefulness and overuse of resources and energy that we have expended for over a century. Some of us are just now realizing the damage we have done before and are now continuing to cause. So we need to be the leaders to reverse the trend. But that is not politically or commercially popular... so we will just continue on our way... I feel sad for those of you with kids and grand kids... and their futures...

Edited February 13, 2020 by Tommy T.

[Kuya John]

With so many rumours spreading on social media regarding the source of Corona-virus.

What has surfaced from all this is, when a crisis happens that could affect the whole world, nations pull together.

Until World Leaders take the same responsible attitude with Climate Change, there will be  consequences.

It's true that the Rich with their affordable incomes will not feel the effects of Climate Change for quite some time,

while those less fortunate will struggle to survive.

However when the air that we all breathe becomes so polluted,

When the seas no longer provide enough fish to feed the hungry, when what trees are left cannot produce enough oxygen,

it might be a little to late to say we told you so!

A high percentage of the food we produce at present, and don't consume goes to waste .If we the more fortunate, did our bit by cutting down on our materialistic needs and make a conscious effort to........

"Live simple so others may simple live"  it's a start in the right direction.

Edited February 13, 2020 by Kuya John
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