Huggybearman Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 11:29 PM, Jake said: Excellent conversational starter Kuya John. The future for our children and grandchildren is bleak, to say the least. In my own morbid way, I wish that Mother Nature will blow a fuse and teach us, the modern Man to once again respect her. I believe it will get worse, before it gets any better. Respectfully Jake With the response from most world leaders being to stick their collective heads in the sand, failing to agree on even the most basic of measures to even begin to seriously address the problem, I fear Jake, that you are only half right......... your belief that it will get worse........... it may well be too late for the 'before it gets any better' part. Even today I hear on the news, with out of control fires nudging the outskirts of Sydney, the Australian PM is casting doubt on the link between the fires and global warming! If I were Australian I think I would start a crowd funding page to pay for his ticket to resume his (hopefully indefinite) vacation in Hawaii! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy F. Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) I've seen the effects of climate change here in Big Wonderful Wyoming in the American West. For several years Winters were not getting cold enough to kill Bark Beetles so large swathes of forest were killed. Until 10 years ago there had never been a tornado in the county I was living in, because of the altitude. It's more difficult for tornadoes to form if the air is thinner. Since the air has been getting slightly warmer there have been 3 tornadoes (in the last 10 years). There is more. I could go on, but have other things to do now. There have been widely scattered reports of coral bleaching in the area of Bohol where my house is. If coral bleaching ever becomes widespread there I am well and truly screwed, since the great snorkeling is half the reason I want to live there. Edited December 22, 2019 by Guy F. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Guy F. said: IThere have been widely scattered reports of coral bleaching in the area of Bohol where my house is. Coral bleaching has effected more than 50% of the Great Barrier Reef off Australia's east coast. To add some information about the effects of climate change, ie increased severity of fires I think that these pictures might help to put the recent mega fires in Australia in perspective. NB -: NSW is about 15% bigger than Texas, the ACT is about the size of Rhode Island and the area that the fires had burnt as of the 19th of December was roughly the size of the state of Maryland (for UK people that's 50% more than Wales). Edited December 22, 2019 by GeoffH add picture 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Tommy T. Posted December 22, 2019 Forum Support Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, GeoffH said: To add some information about the effects of climate change, ie increased severity of fires I think that these pictures might help to put the recent mega fires in Australia in perspective. Great documentation, Geoff, for a very sad story. As a friend of mine said to me yesterday: "We need to look at this next year with 2020 vision." and the future beyond.... Edited December 22, 2019 by Tommy T. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Boggs Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Good grief I can't believe so many of you guys have fallen for this climate change bullsh*t. Honestly its embarrassing. Wake up, people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary D Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Marvin Boggs said: Good grief I can't believe so many of you guys have fallen for this climate change bullsh*t. Honestly its embarrassing. Wake up, people. The climate is changing, there's no doubt, it's fluid and constanly moving. Are we effecting it, maybe. It's not the hottest yet that it's ever been in history, fossils in cliffs show that sea level have been much higher than today. Are we kidding ourselves we have any control over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Gary D said: The climate is changing, there's no doubt, it's fluid and constanly moving. Are we effecting it, maybe. It's not the hottest yet that it's ever been in history, fossils in cliffs show that sea level have been much higher than today. Are we kidding ourselves we have any control over it. I agree with you, but I am also pretty sure that human impact does NOT improve the situation for the Earth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Kid Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 9:32 AM, Marvin Boggs said: Good grief I can't believe so many of you guys have fallen for this climate change bullsh*t. Honestly its embarrassing. Wake up, people. A President supporter has spoken. Facts are not true in their world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Kid Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, Viking said: I agree with you, but I am also pretty sure that human impact does NOT improve the situation for the Earth. With the amount of plastics that we daily pollute the ocean with, humans will evolve into something very different than what we are now. It's inevitable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya John Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Guy F. said: Until 10 years ago there had never been a tornado in the county I was living in, because of the altitude. It's more difficult for tornadoes to form if the air is thinner. Since the air has been getting slightly warmer there have been 3 tornadoes (in the last 10 years). Now for some more news...... UK weather: Tornado damages homes and cars in Surrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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