Building a house in Bataan

[stevewool]

Looking very nice, what are you doing with the kitchen sink/ worktop, leaving concrete or tiles or something else

[Gary D]

1 hour ago, stevewool said:

Looking very nice, what are you doing with the kitchen sink/ worktop, leaving concrete or tiles or something else

That's the front apartment which will be a traditional concrete and tile finish plus marine ply doors under. The rear apartment is hopefully a more traditional European kitchen with granite worksurfaces.

[Gary D]

I bought some lights for the kitchen area and bathrooms, the instruction sheet consists of simple drawings of how the put the bulb in and an arrow pointing upwards to I assume show that you push it in to the ceiling. No dimensions of hole size, nothing. WTF, any seen these before and know how they work.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Gary D

[Mike J]

5 minutes ago, Gary D said:

I bought some lights for the kitchen area and bathrooms, the instruction sheet consists of simple drawings of how the put the bulb in and an arrow pointing upwards to I assume show that you push it in to the ceiling. No dimensions of hole size, nothing. WTF, any seen these before and know how they work.

I installed a bunch of these when I finished out a house in the US, where they are called "can lights".  The hole needs to be large enough to push the entire fixture up into the hole EXCEPT for the white flange.  That is make the hole about 1 inch in width more narrow than the flange.  Use a hole saw to make the ceiling cuts.  Run the cable to the lights with a little extra.  Wire the can.  Push those two long finger type wires up beside the can, and push the whole unit up in the hole.  Those fingers are sping loaded and will pop out to hold the can up by spreading and pushing.  The key to success is the proper size opening and having it as round as possible so the white flange covers it entirely.  Once installed they make a very nice appearance.  I really liked them.  How this makes sense.  Let me know if more info needed.

[Gary D]

32 minutes ago, Mike J said:

I installed a bunch of these when I finished out a house in the US, where they are called "can lights".  The hole needs to be large enough to push the entire fixture up into the hole EXCEPT for the white flange.  That is make the hole about 1 inch in width more narrow than the flange.  Use a hole saw to make the ceiling cuts.  Run the cable to the lights with a little extra.  Wire the can.  Push those two long finger type wires up beside the can, and push the whole unit up in the hole.  Those fingers are sping loaded and will pop out to hold the can up by spreading and pushing.  The key to success is the proper size opening and having it as round as possible so the white flange covers it entirely.  Once installed they make a very nice appearance.  I really liked them.  How this makes sense.  Let me know if more info needed.

Thanks Mike, what you describe is the mouse trap type that are sprung loaded. These are two piece and not sprung.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Gary D

[Mike J]

16 minutes ago, Gary D said:

Thanks Mike, what you describe is the mouse trap type that are sprung loaded. These are two piece and not doing.

When you press down on the circled part, do the long flanges then move to the locked position pointing outward?  Trying to make the picture bigger but gets small again when I post.  

 

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by Mike J

[Gary D]

1 minute ago, Mike J said:

When you press down on the circled part, do the long flanges then move to the locked position pointing outward?

 

The arms pivot freely. I sort of assume that the long part of the arm goes through the hole then the small part jams in the side of the hole pivoting the long arm down behind the ceiling. I think the hole need to be the right size and thickness to work. Of course all thjs critical information is missing.

[Mike J]

2 minutes ago, Gary D said:

The arms pivot freely. I sort of assume that the long part of the arm goes through the hole then the small part jams in the side of the hole pivoting the long arm down behind the ceiling. I think the hole need to be the right size and thickness to work. Of course all thjs critical information is missing.

I think you are correct.  The little arms press against the side of the hole which pushes the larger arms down.  Hole size is going to critical if that is how they work.  I would practice on a piece of scrap material and see how it works.

[Gary D]

Although progress is being made nothing particularly structural or photo worthy. Inside painting will be finished likely tomorrow then the garage. I think outside should be done with by the end of next week. Whilst the decorators are busy inside we are taking the opportunity to have the window surrounds fitted which really lift the front. Next job Aircon, was thinking Carrier but our local SM has a very good deal on at the moment on Panasonic.The local style kitchen in the front apartment.The local style kitchen in the front apartment.

[Tommy T.]

9 minutes ago, Gary D said:

Although progress is being made nothing particularly structural or photo worthy. Inside painting will be finished likely tomorrow then the garage. I think outside should be done with by the end of next week. Whilst the decorators are busy inside we are taking the opportunity to have the window surrounds fitted which really lift the front. Next job Aircon, was thinking Carrier but our local SM has a very good deal on at the moment on Panasonic.The local style kitchen in the front apartment

That's looking very nice, Gary. Very professional, neat and clean... Good on ya!