PAL flight looses Starboard engine on take off

[jimeve]

3 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

What does "2 hours flying time" mean in terms of distance?

Approximately 1500 miles but one engine who knows.

[Marvin Boggs]

12 hours ago, Mike J said:

Straight line from LAX to Philippines would be approximately 6,000 miles (Google earth my straight line)

Curved flight from LAX to Philippines would be approximately 7,290 miles (Google earth my curved line) 

Actual flight miles 7,305 miles https://www.airmilescalculator.com/distance/mnl-to-lax/

 

Mike, I think you are using a start point somewhere south of New Guinea for the routes there.  Look carefully, you can see the land forms.  That's not Philippines....  

 

When I use Google Earth it looks like this.  Straight shot from Manila to LA goes way north of Hawaii, almost to the Aleutians, while crossing the deep ocean trenches. 

[OnMyWay]

Here is the current path of PR 103.  It may not always take this path but on this path it goes fairly close to Hawaii and Guam.  The path they choose probably depends a lot on the time of year and the jetstream.  I used to plan air cargo from LAX to Asia and if I recall correctly, U.S. winter was when we had a hard time getting cargo space because of headwinds.  That was mostly on the longer non-stop routes like LAX/SYD, LAX/SIN and LAX/MNL.  Southeast Asia starting with Philippines is more likely to not head north on the polar routes, but I think they do sometimes.

https://www.flightradar24.com/PAL103/22f1726d

 

 

[Tommy T.]

12 hours ago, jimeve said:

Approximately 1500 miles but one engine who knows.

You mean 750 mph, Jim? So almost the speed of sound for a commercial jet even on multiple engines? Are you sure about that?

Edited November 23, 2019 by Tommy T.

[Mike J]

9 hours ago, Marvin Boggs said:

Mike, I think you are using a start point somewhere south of New Guinea for the routes there.  Look carefully, you can see the land forms.  That's not Philippines....  

Yikes, good thing I am not a pilot. 

[Pinetree]

18 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

At what speed?

One would think that "2 hours flying time" would vary quite a bit depending on altitude, load, remaining fuel, number or engines functioning, etc.  The "2 hours flying time" could vary enough to be an insignificant number.  Or could it?  What does "2 hours flying time" mean in terms of distance?

by most company definitions, that is 2 hours at normal cruise speed, taking into account a decent and landing at the alternate. The ETOPS  criteria for certification  are for twin engine operation at  anything over 60 minutes from an alternate airport.  

[hk blues]

On 11/22/2019 at 10:03 AM, jimeve said:

I never said halfway. please read again.

 

Jim, I know you didn't but I wanted to shoehorn in the Irish pilot joke!  

[Arizona Kid]

All of you "experts" debating the technical issues. All I want to know is..will the plane crash and burn?

[jimeve]

10 hours ago, Tommy T. said:

You mean 750 mph, Jim? So almost the speed of sound for a commercial jet even on multiple engines? Are you sure about that?

Dave's comment... What does "2 hours flying time" mean in terms of distance?

I said......Approximately 1500 miles but one engine who knows.  Yes i am sure.  Tommy. But at lower altitude probably be much less.

[Rayj]

On 11/22/2019 at 7:31 PM, Marvin Boggs said:

CAN I ASK A SENSITIVE QUESTION....... Do Filipinas seem a little overly nervous about flying?  Seems like I have to explain every little bump and noise whenever we fly, can't let her fly alone, etc. 

Not my wife. When we hit turbulence that makes me turn white, I look over to see my wife laughing!  

The day I discovered flight paths by earth mapping, was the day I was set at ease of flying to the Philippines. I saw the flight path over land mostly all the way from New York. It comforts me that I may die from a crash, but at least I won’t get eaten by sharks while I’m drowning!