Free heroin in Glasgow Scotland

[bastonjock]

A new radical approach to Scotlands drug problem has been announced. 

The plan is for specially trained nurses to administer the drug to registered addicts

Glasgow in particular has the worst death rate amongst addicts in europe

So the plan is to medically administer diamorphine to addicts 

I read a book a long time past called the truth about drugs , it stated that the cost of diamorphine to our NHS is about $10.00 a gram , on the street a  gram is sold for about $350.00 

This imho is an.aproach that is long overdue , it has been trialled before in the north east of england ,the most noticeable benefit was the refuction in crime rate of about 90% , whilst getting people of drugs is very difficult,  i see this as a positive action

I hope that it will cause the illegal drugs to dry up on the street,  by removing the vast profits, it should make it unattractive to dealers , my brother a senior cop ,told me that a kilo of heroin is purchased in pakistan for about $1500.00 on the streets of the UK , that same kilo retails at around $300,000.00 , 

So i hope that by removing the profits , the dealers will loose interest in their market ,and if its not easily available on the street then hopefully less people will take up using it 

[Jack D]

Makes perfect sense to me but it’s not really something new, since the UK has had free heroin programs for addicts from the 1920’s until they were pressured by the US (with its war on drugs) to switch to methadone. Methadone is not as effective as heroin, plus it has many undesirable side-effects. Many peeps in methadone programs (in the USA) sell their methadone on the street in order to buy heroin. Please don’t ask me how I know. 

I’ve read that some cigarette addicts, as well as addicts to alcohol in the UK, are now demanding free cigarettes and alcohol from the government, since they believe that addicts of all things should have it provided to them for free by the government. Sounds rather silly, but what do you think?

In an unrelated situation, the USA has legalized hemp production in most states. Hemp is identical to marijuana, except for its lower level of THC. Since both plants are cannabis sativa and each one contains THC, police are having problems enforcing marijuana laws, since the existing test kits are unable to identify one from the other. Police dogs are also unable to detect the difference between hemp and marijuana.

Because of this, police are very reluctant to make marijuana arrests. So, in a bizarre twist of fate, the USA has unintentionally legalized marijuana in the states growing hemp that do not have legalized marijuana yet. 

[Tommy T.]

1 hour ago, Jack D said:

Since both plants are cannabis sativa and each one contains THC,

Small point and question, Jack D... Isn't most of the potent marijuana of the genus "cannabis indica?" Same basic plant, different but much more potent strain.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Tommy T.

[Jack D]

49 minutes ago, Tommy T. said:

Small point and question, Jack D... Isn't most of the potent marijuana of the genus "cannabis indica?" Same basic plant, different but much more potent strain.

It all depends on which cannabinoid you want more of... THC or CBD?

Indica plants have a higher CBD:THC ratio. Sativa plants have a higher THC:CBD ratio.

https://thesourcenv.com/know-your-cannabis-eight-differences-between-indica-and-sativa/

Edited November 26, 2019 by Jack D
Grammar

[bastonjock]

22 minutes ago, Tommy T. said:

Small point and question, Jack D... Isn't most of the potent marijuana of the genus "cannabis indica?" Same basic plant, different but much more potent strain.

I thought that the Dutch had managed to come up with a hybrid form of the cannabis plant , it's so strong that it's a class A drug here , its known locally as skunk

[bastonjock]

2 hours ago, Jack D said:

Makes perfect sense to me but it’s not really something new, since the UK has had free heroin programs for addicts from the 1920’s until they were pressured by the US (with its war on drugs) to switch to methadone. Methadone is not as effective as heroin, plus it has many undesirable side-effects. Many peeps in methadone programs (in the USA) sell their methadone on the street in order to buy heroin. Please don’t ask me how I know. 

I’ve read that some cigarette addicts, as well as addicts to alcohol in the UK, are now demanding free cigarettes and alcohol from the government, since they believe that addicts of all things should have it provided to them for free by the government. Sounds rather silly, but what do you think?

In an unrelated situation, the USA has legalized hemp production in most states. Hemp is identical to marijuana, except for its lower level of THC. Since both plants are cannabis sativa and each one contains THC, police are having problems enforcing marijuana laws, since the existing test kits are unable to identify one from the other. Police dogs are also unable to detect the difference between hemp and marijuana.

Because of this, police are very reluctant to make marijuana arrests. So, in a bizarre twist of fate, the USA has unintentionally legalized marijuana in the states growing hemp that do not have legalized marijuana yet. 

I hope this experiment works , I think that if you can take the profits away then heroin will fade away 

During Ramadan the price of heroin increases , this is because  of the Pakistani importer, behind most of the Asian businesses in this country is profits from heroin 

[Jack D]

22 minutes ago, bastonjock said:

I hope this experiment works , I think that if you can take the profits away then heroin will fade away.

If the government stops the program, illegal heroin will never fade away. The desire for it is too great for most addicts to stay away from it.

If the legal stuff disappears, the addicts will be back on the street buying the high-priced junk from the dealers.

I would hope that with all of the problems with heroin in the USA, especially with overdose related deaths (from fentanyl-laced heroin) that the USA would have a similar program to the UK for heroin addicts.

[JDDavao II]

5 hours ago, Jack D said:

I would hope that with all of the problems with heroin in the USA, especially with overdose related deaths (from fentanyl-laced heroin) that the USA would have a similar program to the UK for heroin addicts.

I think the US is much more likely to take the Duterte approach.

[Snowy79]

Personally whether they make it legal or not there will still be a regular supply of ilegal heroine.  It never stopped black market cigarettes and it won't stop black market heroine.  Having had personal dealings with drug addicts on the ex wife's side of the family I'm very pro Duterte's model. 

[Arizona Kid]

9 hours ago, Tommy T. said:

Small point and question, Jack D... Isn't most of the potent marijuana of the genus "cannabis indica?" Same basic plant, different but much more potent strain.

I only partake in that particular strain for medicinal purposes.