Popular Post Terry P Posted January 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Viking said: The way I see it,the biggest problem with covid is that there is no way to predict how YOU will react if you get infected. We know that high age, diabetes, hypertension etc, increases the risk to die, but there is still many examples of old people with these sicknesses that survive covid, without severe complications. At the same time there is also quite a few young, very healthy people, getting very sick for a long time and some even die. It´s ofcourse up to each individual to choose if they want to take the vaccine or not, but to me it sounds like the risks with the vaccine is far less than the risk of getting seriously sick if you catch covid. I agree with everything you have written Viking including the option to take the vaccine is an individual's choice At the moment health services are struggling to cope worldwide with the consequences of being infected with this virus There are vital services being cancelled to cope. Cancer treatments, transplant surgery to mention two. Get this vaccine rolled out these unfortunate people can start receiving treatment once again. God knows how many have died through not getting vital treatment already. My view is anyone refusing to be vaccinated and contracts covid when things return to"normal" should be told " sorry sir it is no longer a priority to treat covid patients you take your chances now, we have other priorities. Come back in 6 months when we've dealt with the backlog of our present priorities 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy79 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, TerryP said: Friend of mine early 50s doesn't smoke, no health complications, the occasional social beer,eats healthy, long walk along the beach every morning was laid up for 3 weeks with covid a few months ago. Still not 100% fit. Another friends sister 39yo not overweight, no health issues, nonsmoker, odd glass of wine. 3 young children. Shipped off to hospital with covid on Christmas day. Contracted pneumonia and spent 8days in ICU. She's out now hopefully with no further complications. If you want to eat celery, jog off down to the health food store every morning, make your nightcap a low-fat cocoa and rely on your zinc supercharged immune system to fend off the grim reaper be my guest. I'm standing in line with a ciggy in one hand and a can of lager in the other waiting for my turn to contribute to some pharmaceutical giants profits I know where I'm laying my bet I'm still hoping for them to spend more money finding out who is more succeptible to Covid. A few small investigations have shown that certain people are predisposed to serious Covid depending on their DNA, but as there's no money in finding out who not to vaccinate I can't see many pharmaceutical companies spending too much time and effort trying to cut their customer base. As for the trying to keep healthy that's the option I'll try first. Of the fit guys I know that have died over the years they tend to have been sudden, heart attacks, blood clots etc. The unfit ones tend to have suffered strokes and not died. I'd rather not wake up than be stuck in a chair staring at a clock with someone wiping my butt for the next 20yrs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted January 18, 2021 Author Posted January 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Snowy79 said: I'm still hoping for them to spend more money finding out who is more succeptible to Covid. A few small investigations have shown that certain people are predisposed to serious Covid depending on their DNA, but as there's no money in finding out who not to vaccinate I can't see many pharmaceutical companies spending too much time and effort trying to cut their customer base. As for the trying to keep healthy that's the option I'll try first. Of the fit guys I know that have died over the years they tend to have been sudden, heart attacks, blood clots etc. The unfit ones tend to have suffered strokes and not died. I'd rather not wake up than be stuck in a chair staring at a clock with someone wiping my butt for the next 20yrs. There is a solution stop the vaccination programme and hold the pharmaceutical industry to ransom until they have conducted thorough DNA tests meanwhile that should get rid of a load more sitting staring at a clock unable to wipe their own butt Don't think that's going to work somehow One possible scenario is for us vaccinated fit or unfit individuals can be free to travel around in planes trains and automobiles while the health conscious antivaxxers could sit staring at a clock wiping their own butt therefore having no chance of infecting or being infected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post intrepid Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted January 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Viking said: It´s ofcourse up to each individual to choose if they want to take the vaccine or not, but to me it sounds like the risks with the vaccine is far less than the risk of getting seriously sick if you catch covid. Never fear the Pfizer vaccine, maker of Viagra. It they can raise the dead they can surely heal the sick! 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 9 hours ago, TerryP said: My view is anyone refusing to be vaccinated and contracts covid when things return to"normal" should be told " sorry sir it is no longer a priority to treat covid patients you take your chances now, we have other priorities. Come back in 6 months when we've dealt with the backlog of our present priorities Really? So if someone cannot take the vaccine for one reason or another you are going to let them die at the emergency room entrance? Wow, you are such a compassionate guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, TerryP said: I'm standing in line with a ciggy in one hand and a can of lager in the other waiting for my turn to contribute to some pharmaceutical giants profits I know where I'm laying my bet Speaking about bets, many years ago I made a bet and invested heavily in the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries, these bets paid off, I was able to retire early and until today they throw monthly dividends into my bank account, so keep up the good work, the beneficiaries of my inheritance are thanking you from the bottom of their heart... Edited January 19, 2021 by Explorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Explorer said: Really? So if someone cannot take the vaccine for one reason or another you are going to let them die at the emergency room entrance? Wow, you are such a compassionate guy... I wouldn't refuse medical treatment to an unvaccinated individual but it would be a reasonable precaution to treat them with the assumption that they are covid positive and keep them isolated from other patients. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Explorer said: Really? So if someone cannot take the vaccine for one reason or another you are going to let them die at the emergency room entrance? Hospitals on Cebu island are so full that my wife's brother spent 4 days trying to find a hospital with a surgery department to do an apendectomy. If I were administrating one of those hospitals and had to choose between someone who could'a should'a taken a vaccine and someone who is an innocent victim then I would make the guy wait. If he dies, he dies. When the hospital is full then its full. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Explorer said: Really? So if someone cannot take the vaccine for one reason or another you are going to let them die at the emergency room entrance? Wow, you are such a compassionate guy... Well I can't see that someones getting on a Plane ( Internationally ) in the near Future then, certainly without some sort of Medical Certificate, Especially when get back to the proposed new Normal. But....................... Edited January 19, 2021 by Jack Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Tommy T. Posted January 19, 2021 Forum Support Posted January 19, 2021 13 hours ago, TerryP said: My view is anyone refusing to be vaccinated and contracts covid when things return to"normal" should be told " sorry sir it is no longer a priority to treat covid patients you take your chances now, we have other priorities. Come back in 6 months when we've dealt with the backlog of our present priorities This is the first time I can agree with one of your comments, Terry... It is not totally realistic and I think it is also meant to be a bit sarcastic, but it works. There is some veracity to this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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