Explorer Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Snowy79 said: I'd be more prone to close them down for trying to hide it. Set an example that if the proper channels aren't followed it will cost them dearly. It may cost the resort some money but there's no price on a life in my books. Unless it's my ex wife and 5 peso will do. The resort charges about 15k peso per night and were aware that they must report all cases immediately and isolate the staff. What do you mean with "isolate the staff"? I am sure the employee who got covid is on sick leave. So you say they need to do PCR test to all the staff? Ok, but what about all the guests? Are they going to require all the guests to take PCR test? So you go for a weekend in Boracay in a 15k peso per night resort and end up spending 14 days in isolation in a classroom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted December 25, 2020 Forum Support Posted December 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Explorer said: What do you mean with "isolate the staff"? I am sure the employee who got covid is on sick leave. So you say they need to do PCR test to all the staff? Ok, but what about all the guests? Are they going to require all the guests to take PCR test? So you go for a weekend in Boracay in a 15k peso per night resort and end up spending 14 days in isolation in a classroom? One would assume the infected employee is isolated at home or where ever. Isolating those exposed is one of the few things that may stop the spread. I don't know the local laws on Boracay. There is no country wide standard or plan. It could be guests should be tested but they have likely returned home to potently spread it unknowingly. Explorer what do you think should be done in this instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Explorer said: And can you blame them? Last thing they want is a knucklehead from IATF close their entire place for one week for "sanitation"... Strange perspective to have on something which is designed to protect the health, and ultimately lives, of all of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Old55 said: One would assume the infected employee is isolated at home or where ever. Isolating those exposed is one of the few things that may stop the spread. I don't know the local laws on Boracay. There is no country wide standard or plan. It could be guests should be tested but they have likely returned home to potently spread it unknowingly. Explorer what do you think should be done in this instance? If covid is so serious as the authorities claim, why they are not shutting down the resorts completely, the same way as cruise ships are shut down? When cruise ships were operating, once covid detected on a ship they quarantine the entire ship and only let the passengers off board under certain protocols, so what is the difference between a resort and a cruise ship? If someone in a resort have covid, why they are not putting the entire resort under quarantine and do PCR test to everybody in the resort? Edited December 25, 2020 by Explorer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted December 25, 2020 Forum Support Posted December 25, 2020 Perhaps resorts are open because there are protocols in place that deem the risk acceptable? We read that testing was mandated and funds were provided for testing but officials failed to follow through. Guessing some new SUV's are now on the island? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, hk blues said: Strange perspective to have on something which is designed to protect the health, and ultimately lives, of all of us. If covid is so serious as the authorities claim and you want to protect the health, why not just stay at home instead of going to a potentially covid infested resort? Why when a Filipino want to go to visit his family in another province, they require barangay clearance, PCR test and 14 days quarantine but a "rich" Filipino can go to resort without quarantine and can return home without PCR test/quarantine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy79 Posted December 25, 2020 Author Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Explorer said: What do you mean with "isolate the staff"? I am sure the employee who got covid is on sick leave. So you say they need to do PCR test to all the staff? Ok, but what about all the guests? Are they going to require all the guests to take PCR test? So you go for a weekend in Boracay in a 15k peso per night resort and end up spending 14 days in isolation in a classroom? The rules state that they do contact tracing and any staff he has been in contact with must be tested and isolated from others untill the results are confirmed. He also shares staff accomodation with 5 others. Pretty pointless putting just him into quarantine if the others are free to mingle. They class you as being at risk if you have been in close contact with a carrier for 15 minutes. I doubt any guest would be in contact that long unless getting a massage then I'm afraid they would be classed as at risk and be required to isolate. All tourist must have an RT-PCR test before entering the island to prove they are less likely to bring it onto the island, it is checked at Caticlan Jetty before getting on the boat to Boracay. All workers were also meant to be tested hence the 10m peso from DOT. In theory it gives the island the best chance of stayig Covid free. Hiding one case could become 5 cases, ten cases, twenty, lives lost and Boracay shut for the foreseable future. Or do they punish a multi billion peso company and keep everyone safe? Edited December 25, 2020 by Snowy79 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Snowy79 said: All tourist must have an RT-PCR test before entering the island to prove they are less likely to bring it onto the island, it is checked at Caticlan Jetty before getting on the boat to Boracay. All workers were also meant to be tested hence the 10m peso from DOT. In theory it gives the island the best chance of stayig Covid free. If they really want to keep the island covid free why they are not implementing 14 days quarantine upon arrival like in any other island? This is a rhetorical question, we all know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBM Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Explorer said: And can you blame them? Last thing they want is a knucklehead from IATF close their entire place for one week for "sanitation"... Interesting, I tried to find a link I read a while back, unfortunately could not. Stated the people in the IATF were hand picked ex generals and other military officials. Hard to believe no scientific brains included or medical personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy79 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Posted December 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Explorer said: If they really want to keep the island covid free why they are not implementing 14 days quarantine upon arrival like in any other island? This is a rhetorical question, we all know the answer. Quarantine is only required for OFW and LSI. Tourists require an RT-PCR test, DOT approved accommodation and medical clearance. It's the same in Oriental Mindoro. I think also in El Nido, Coron and Bohol. I guess the Government are trying to keep some people's livelihoods going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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