SailingHome Posted March 1, 2021 Author Posted March 1, 2021 Haha. So... so far the answer is ambiguous and the only concrete words are "lawyer". I was hoping to avoid paying a lawyer to find out. Quoting the laws which are already said to not be clear about my original question is not helpful for me, but thanks for admitting you do not know. I actually do appreciate the effort 😀 Elsewhere, others have suggested we can stand on princupal that that which is not written as unlawful is in fact allowed. The law is clearly ambiguous as it both realistically points out that the foreigner is free by their country, but states the civilian must go through court. It does not further limit that the foreigner needs court permission to marry in Phils, but is ambiguous enough to not know for sure. Obviously, a CENOMAR would say, "Married". Last I checked, divorce registration takes the same time as annulment as various agencies and civil registrars have to weigh in on whether there are property and/or children involved. Has anyone been through this or knows someone who has? I'd like to know their story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graham59 Posted March 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SailingHome said: Has anyone been through this or knows someone who has? I'd like to know their story. Yes I have been married to a Filipina, in the Phils, in 1991. Yes, I have married another one (here in the Phils), in 2015, after having been divorced from the first, in the UK, in 2006. All of these laws and court cases quoted above refer to FILIPINO CITIZENS. Are you a Filipino Citizen ? Let your ex worry about that. If marrying in the Philippines, obtain a CENOMAR, or equivalent document from your home country, bring your divorce certificate, and you're good to go... again...as a single man. Your prospective new bride here will not be affected by your past marital history, though she of course will also require a local CENOMAR, simply confirming that she herself is single and able to marry. Ignore any advice to the contrary. Edited March 1, 2021 by graham59 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingHome Posted March 1, 2021 Author Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, graham59 said: If marrying in the Philippines, obtain a CENOMAR, or equivalent document from your home country, bring your divorce certificate, and you're good to go... again...as a single man. Awesome! I do remember us needing a Phils CENOMAR for me when we married. One from USA is no problem at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandang Smile Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 I also recently got married to a Filipina as divorced man. To obtain my CENOMAR, I did have to present my divorce certificate translated into English (which I already had). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham59 Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 8 hours ago, SailingHome said: Awesome! I do remember us needing a Phils CENOMAR for me when we married. One from USA is no problem at all. I'd bring your birth cert too. (I seem to remember needing that... to show I was old enough to marry (at 64 ) 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingHome Posted March 1, 2021 Author Posted March 1, 2021 The difinitive word from Filipino Law Group is here. May want to sticky this. Note it says "under PH laws" meaning under the jurisdiction of PH. "Thank you for contacting us. If a foreigner who is married to a Filipino gets a divorce and the foreigner's country allows divorce, then that foreigner can remarry under PH laws. As to the Filipino spouse, she/he needs to file a petition to have the divorce recognized in order to remarry." Thanks to all! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham59 Posted March 4, 2021 Posted March 4, 2021 I would imagine that divorced individuals are not permitted to marry 'in church', in the Phils. Just a thought. My weddings were both civil affairs, so not really affected by such silliness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebie Posted March 4, 2021 Posted March 4, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 1:09 AM, SailingHome said: and the foreigner's country allows divorce EVERY country in the world with the exception of Philippines allows divorce... The Vatican being a tiny place smaller than Makati doesnt exactly warrant the moniker of "country". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted March 4, 2021 Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Freebie said: The Vatican being a tiny place smaller than Makati doesnt exactly warrant the moniker of "country". Why is the Vatican considered a country? It was granted the status of a country due to the Lateran treaty to end a period of political and religious turmoil within Italy between the church and government. The Kingdom of Italy and the Papal States were fighting over the control of land in mainland Italy, Rome in particular. https://carpediemrome.com/is-vatican-city-a-country/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted March 4, 2021 Forum Support Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, graham59 said: I would imagine that divorced individuals are not permitted to marry 'in church', in the Phils. Just a thought. My weddings were both civil affairs, so not really affected by such silliness. A divorced Foreigner to Filipina may have a Mass Church wedding after some simple paperwork and $$$. Edited March 4, 2021 by Old55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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