Guy F. Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 8 hours ago, fred said: One thing I prefer about living here is the fact that the low and high level corruption is all highly visible and pretty easily understood by the normal everyday citizen.. It is blatently obvious for all to see. Back home in the west,the powers that be are way more advanced in regards hiding their ill gotten gains.. They have smoke and mirror technology now that you would not believe.. The Main stream media are all bought and paid for and I could rant on and on about why they do not expose these scumbag elite hierarchy in the papers or on TV ..he he I`m happy my kids all grew up here and live old fashioned western/Asian style happy lives. No regrets. I agree regarding high level corruption. The US is no longer a democracy, it's an oligarchy. Bribery is open and legal. The UK is probably similar. I haven't seen low level corruption worth mentioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy79 Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 I've noticed time and effort is being put into ensuring the man on the street is being held more accountable yet nothing is changing for those in power. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted March 24, 2021 Forum Support Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Snowy79 said: I've noticed time and effort is being put into ensuring the man on the street is being held more accountable yet nothing is changing for those in power. Snowy; "nothing is changing for those in power"..... Not in the past 400 years it hasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted March 24, 2021 Author Posted March 24, 2021 17 hours ago, OnMyWay said: I understand what you are saying. We have gone over so many factors, and decided the benefits of living in the U.S. outweigh the negatives, and also outweigh some benefits that exist in the Philippines. You are right. At least in the US you could count on the possibility of being murdered while shopping and you can here too but dont see much mass murder here which I see in some places. At least here if I see a couple of guys on a motorbike approaching in a strange way I know possibility for trouble but when in the supermarket in some places reading the protein value on a yogurt label might be your last time of anything. Yeah I'm pissed off with the the world so be gentle with me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyWay Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said: At least here if I see a couple of guys on a motorbike approaching in a strange way I know possibility for trouble I doubt that you will see them coming. Since I lived here in Subic, only 1 of the 4 assignations I know of locally (I'm sure there were more) saw it coming, and that was because he had a bodyguard. Still dead and his brother arranged the hitmen. I'm not sure why you ranted on my post in this topic, which is about corruption. If you want to debate safety in the Philippines vs. safety in the U.S., perhaps another topic is warranted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandang Smile Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, OnMyWay said: You guys are hinting at a major factor in my decision to move my family out of the Philippines. If it was just me, I could deal with it, but I don't want my two young daughters growing up thinking this is the way the world runs. Sonjack posted the article about "Is this why the Philippines is a poor country" and direct investment topic. It all boils down to corruption and keeping the powerful in power. When I moved here in 2012, I really thought the Philippines was going to move forward and upward. After living here for 9 years, I no longer believe they are going to make it out of the corruption rut they are in. IMHO, there are only a few ways that can happen, and they are terrible. Sorry for the rant! Rant is totally justified, in fact it's just a truth-telling moment. This country will never make it. It will continue to be the sick puppy of Asia for the foreseeable future. Only corrupted local politicians, who swim in ill-gotten wealth, and foreign criminals, who can easily bribe their way out of jail every single time, are meant to thrive in this society. Anyone who doesn't subscribe to either or both of human categories won't have an easy life as a productive member of the Philippine society. Edited March 24, 2021 by Gandang Smile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support scott h Posted March 24, 2021 Forum Support Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said: but dont see much mass murder here 38 dead in chilling Resorts World Manila attack | ABS-CBN News (abs-cbn.com) Authorities have recovered 38 bodies from the Resorts World Manila in Pasay City Friday, hours after a gunman went on a rampage in the casino complex, officials said. National Capital Region Police Office chief, Director Oscar Albayalde said the 38 fatalities include the gunman who was still unidentified. At least 67 others were brought to nearby hospitals after sustaining injuries, Department of Health Assistant Secretary Eric Tayag told ANC. LIST: Fatalities of Resorts World Manila attack Presidential Spokesman Ernesto Abella said most of the victims died "due to suffocation at the second floor gaming area, which had been set on fire by the perpetrator." TIMELINE: Resorts World Manila attack Police earlier said the "Caucasian-looking" male suspect barged into the casino carrying long firearms, shot an LED TV and then tried to ransack P113 million worth of chips from a casino storage room. He later committed suicide by setting himself on fire inside a room at the Maxims Hotel, police said. LOOK: Photo of charred remains of suspect in Resorts World attack Albayalde said those who died were in the casino's main gaming area. "What caused their deaths is the thick smoke," he told reporters. "The room was carpeted and of course the tables, highly combustible." A Resorts World Manila official said the dead included 13 employees and 22 guests. Abella said there was no direct link to the shooting incident and the ongoing clashes between government forces and Maute rebels in Marawi City. Police officials have ruled out terror motives, saying the man was operating alone, but eyewitnesses stand by their claim that they saw other gunmen inside the entertainment complex. READ: Gunman did not act alone: witnesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 and in the morning FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, Gandang Smile said: Only corrupted local politicians, who swim in ill-gotten wealth, and foreign criminals, who can easily bribe their way out of jail every single time, are meant to thrive in this society. Anyone who doesn't subscribe to either or both of human categories won't have an easy life as a productive member of the Philippine society. Just my opinion, but that's much too negative an outlook - there are 108 million people here and a significant number are productive members of society as well as being honest. Maybe you are only talking at a higher level? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandang Smile Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, hk blues said: Just my opinion, but that's much too negative an outlook - there are 108 million people here and a significant number are productive members of society as well as being honest. Maybe you are only talking at a higher level? There's also a lot of honest people in the Philippines, but they inevitably fall victim of the system. Not so dissimilarly to what happens in my homeland, Italy. Some of them decide to leave to try and play by the rules of a different host country. Some others decide to stay and go on the dark side, e.g. former policemen and special forces turned hitmen and bodyguards for the corrupted elite. Plenty of dodgy BPO workers who scam people on behalf of some foreigner (usually Chinese, but I know of US, Canadian and Israeli citizens) and then decide to run their own operations. All in all, whoever wants to try being law-abiding and honest don't have an easy life. Edited March 24, 2021 by Gandang Smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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