Jack D Posted June 4, 2021 Posted June 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Old55 said: Beer and guns. It's an American thing. Let's not forget about the rest of the holy American triad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack D Posted June 4, 2021 Posted June 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Explorer said: The vaccines are sort of gene therapy, no long term effect study done, only approved for emergency use, so if you feel your situation is an emergency go ahead take it, otherwise why put this stuff into your body? You can always get vaccinated. You cannot get unvaccinated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack D Posted June 4, 2021 Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 7:08 PM, Old55 said: Biden announces 'National Month of Action' -- that could include free beer -- to get more Americans vaccinated by July 4 What will Willie give away to get more Americans vaccinated by the 4th of July Game On! Let's see what it will really take to reach our 4th of July goal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC57 Posted June 4, 2021 Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 8:08 AM, Old55 said: The US is now at 62.8% first dose. Free beer details are kinda sketchy. Some States are having cash incentives like a lotto for fully vaccinated citizens. https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/02/politics/anheuser-busch-white-house-vaccinations-beer/index.html Biden announces 'National Month of Action' -- that could include free beer -- to get more Americans vaccinated by July 4 (CNN)President Joe Biden on Wednesday announced a "National Month of Action" and outlined additional steps his administration is taking to get 70% of US adults at least one Covid-19 shot by July 4. "It's going to take everyone, everyone -- the federal government, the state governments, local, tribal and territorial governments, private sector, and most importantly the American people -- to get to this 70% mark so we can declare our independence from Covid-19 and free ourselves from the grip it has held over us, our lives, for the better part of a year," Biden said, speaking from the White House. It doesn't matter, we can't rely on factual reporting. Those days have been long gone. The government controls what people think and are told. We will never know the truth about most things coming from the media and or government. That's my cynical take, lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support scott h Posted June 4, 2021 Forum Support Posted June 4, 2021 59 minutes ago, BC57 said: The government controls what people think You forgot Facebook, twitter and Main stream media (either left or right) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted June 5, 2021 Posted June 5, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 8:16 PM, Old55 said: I respect your opinion although I don't think the risk is as dire as you make out. But on the other hand we don't truly know one way or the other. Many have reservations about getting the vaccine because it’s not long term clinically tested and we don’t know if it causes cancer or birth defects. Cancers take time to develop, I am an investor in few biotechnology companies so I am following clinical trials, here an example of patients who got cancer 5 years into the trial, is it because of the gene therapy? Who knows… "A company has stopped its clinical studies of a promising gene therapy for the blood disorder sickle cell disease after two people who participated developed leukemia-like cancer. Bluebird bio is now investigating whether a virus it uses to deliver a therapeutic gene caused the cancers, reviving old concerns about the risks of this approach. But today came the news that a patient treated 5 years ago in one of the studies has developed acute myeloid leukemia (AML). Another has myelodysplastic syndrome (MDS), which can develop into AML. " https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/gene-therapy-trials-sickle-cell-disease-halted-after-two-patients-develop-cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted June 5, 2021 Posted June 5, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 8:31 PM, scott h said: I have enough confidence in the Scientists of the USA, Britain and other first line nations to believe that if there was a major danger it would never make it out of the lab. The vaccine manufacturers have a long history of lawsuits against them. Why is that? J & J is involved in a two billion dollar one now due to their cancer causing talcum powder. I’m sure the “experts” said it was safe when it first came out. News from yesterday - "The Supreme Court rejected an appeal from Johnson & Johnson seeking to undo a $2.1 billion damages award against it over allegations that asbestos in its talc powder products, including baby powder, caused women to develop ovarian cancer." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/01/supreme-court-rejects-johnson-johnsons-appeal-of-2-billion-baby-powder-penalty.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 5, 2021 Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Explorer said: The vaccine manufacturers have a long history of lawsuits against them. Why is that? Perhaps because lawyers know they will pay up. Right or wrong, it is often cheaper to settle out of court. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted June 5, 2021 Forum Support Posted June 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Explorer said: The vaccine manufacturers have a long history of lawsuits against them. Why is that? J & J is involved in a two billion dollar one now due to their cancer causing talcum powder. I’m sure the “experts” said it was safe when it first came out. News from yesterday - "The Supreme Court rejected an appeal from Johnson & Johnson seeking to undo a $2.1 billion damages award against it over allegations that asbestos in its talc powder products, including baby powder, caused women to develop ovarian cancer." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/01/supreme-court-rejects-johnson-johnsons-appeal-of-2-billion-baby-powder-penalty.html You claim "vaccine manufacturers" have a long history of lawsuits against them. You list a single incident where the manufacturer is being sued for talcum power? General Motors just agreed to pay 120 million to settle some law suits about their ignition systems. Does that mean no one should buy automobiles? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted June 5, 2021 Posted June 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mike J said: You claim "vaccine manufacturers" have a long history of lawsuits against them. You list a single incident where the manufacturer is being sued for talcum power? I mentioned the talcum powder lawsuit because it is the most recent, I can go forever with lawsuits... 1) MARCH 18, 2021 - Purdue pharma restructuring to pay billions toward opioid lawsuit settlement. The plan requires the company’s family owners to pay an additional $4.275 billion to resolve thousands of civil claims https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/03/purdue-pharma-restructuring-to-pay-billions-toward-opioid-lawsuit-settlement/# 2) Apr 19, 2021 - Johnson & Johnson, AbbVie’s Allergan business, Teva and Endo are set to face a virtual trial over allegations they downplayed risks of opioid addiction to boost sales. It’s the second major opioid case to go to trial after Oklahoma successfully sued J&J in 2019. The state scored $572 million there, but a judge later reduced the award to $465 million. https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/johnson-johnson-abbvie-teva-and-endo-to-face-pharma-s-first-opioid-trial-since-2019 3) November 7th, 2012 - Johnson & Johnson has recently settled 845 lawsuits against them claiming that the drugmaker did not properly inform drug users of the tendon damage linked with the drug Levaquin. https://thomasjhenrylaw.com/blog/johnson-johnson-settles-levaquin-lawsuits/ 4) AUG 07, 2020 - Drugmaker AbbVie will pay $24 million to settle fraud lawsuit over Humira marketing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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