China should pay reparations for creating Covid-19!

[OnMyWay]

2 hours ago, hk blues said:

It doesn't just happen in China though...

Whatever happens in China, stays in China?  I think they stole the slogan like they steal everything else.

There is no freedom of speech or freedom of press in China.  That is the way it goes in a communist dictatorship.

Sometimes there is a tight rope to walk between free speech and shutting people down for "conspiracy theories".  In the West we generally have had the freedom to throw conspiracy theories out there for debate.  Now we a few tech companies acting as big brother to censor free speech.

[hk blues]

1 hour ago, OnMyWay said:

Whatever happens in China, stays in China?  I think they stole the slogan like they steal everything else.

There is no freedom of speech or freedom of press in China.  That is the way it goes in a communist dictatorship.

Sometimes there is a tight rope to walk between free speech and shutting people down for "conspiracy theories".  In the West we generally have had the freedom to throw conspiracy theories out there for debate.  Now we a few tech companies acting as big brother to censor free speech.

Agreed.

But the point was being made in response to comments that there have been outbreaks from Chinese labs - there have also been some from American labs.  

[GeoffH]

3 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

Now we a few tech companies acting as big brother to censor free speech.

They're not censoring people's right to free speech, they're censoring content upon their company owned servers (in a similar way to what a user of a business network would experience when using a work LAN).

 

[Shady]

41 minutes ago, GeoffH said:

 they're censoring content upon their company owned servers

Which is what public utilities are not allowed to do, it's a First Amendment thing.

[GeoffH]

3 minutes ago, Shady said:

Which is what public utilities are not allowed to do, it's a First Amendment thing.

That's purely an American thing... most of the rest of the world (including as I understand it in the Philippines) they are allowed to do it (and defining Twitter and Facebook as public utilities isn't something that's done in most of the rest of the world either).

Edited June 8, 2021 by GeoffH

[Shady]

7 hours ago, Snowy79 said:

Maybe we should go after the countries that provided funding for the laboratory and had scientists working inside it.

 

 

Close: Go after all the non-elected "officials" and "official organizations" and those who protected them for political reasons:

 

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WHO official with ties to Wuhan coronavirus research thanked Fauci for dispelling ‘myth’ that Covid leaked from lab, email reveals

Washington's Covid czar Anthony Fauci received praise from a WHO official with ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for dismissing theories that the virus was man-made, newly released internal messages show.

Peter Daszak, who was part of the World Health Organization (WHO) team that traveled to China to investigate the origins of the virus, sent Fauci an email on April 18, 2020 in which he thanked him for pushing back against the assertion that Covid-19 leaked from a lab. The message is part of a tranche of emails obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request by BuzzFeed. 

“I just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators, for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID-19 from a bat-to-human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology,” Daszak wrote. He added that Fauci’s “brave” comments were coming from a “trusted voice” and would help “dispel the myths being spun around the virus’s origins.”

Fauci responded the next day, writing: “Many thanks for your kind note.”

Daszak heads an organization, EcoHealth Alliance, which provided $3.4 million in grants from the National Institutes of Health to the Wuhan institute to study bat coronaviruses between 2014 and 2019. He was also a member of the WHO team that traveled to Wuhan to probe the origins of Covid-19. The investigation concluded in March that the lab-leak theory was highly unlikely, and that it was probable, but not certain, that the disease was transmitted to humans by animals. He recently dismissed suggestions that the virus leaked from a lab as “conspiracy theories.”

While such claims were initially dismissed by media outlets, the lab-leak theory has gained traction as experts and intelligence officials have claimed it may have merit. 

Fauci himself said last month that he was “not convinced” that Covid-19 developed naturally, despite previously stating that it was “highly likely” that the disease had a natural origin. https://www.rt.com/usa/525423-fauci-email-daszak-lab-leak-covid/

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2021 by Shady

[Shady]

4 hours ago, GeoffH said:

That's purely an American thing...

Yes the US Constitution only applies to the US, which is the nation of the poster you were replying to:

 

8 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

Now we a few tech companies acting as big brother to censor free speech.

And they're only censoring conservative speech, all part of their plan, that's partly why we have an America-last president instead of an America-first president.

 

[GeoffH]

4 hours ago, Shady said:

Yes the US Constitution only applies to the US, which is the nation of the poster you were replying to:

Who's nationality is relevant why?  This is a Philippines based forum catering to expats from around the world after all.

[Shady]

1 hour ago, GeoffH said:

Who's nationality is relevant why? 

Again, the poster you were replying used the word "we" in reference to what was happening in his nation, not sure why this is confusing.

[GeoffH]

11 minutes ago, Shady said:

Again, the poster you were replying used the word "we" in reference to what was happening in his nation, not sure why this is confusing.

 

This is a forum with members from around the world and if topics were restricted to just one country every time sombody referenced an example from their home country nothing related to the Philippines (which is what this forum is for) would ever be talked about.

What is confusing me is why you're attempting to do that.